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THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE AN UPDATE FROM COMMUNITY
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DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.UM, PLEASE ALSO INTRODUCE ANY STAFF THAT MAY BE PRESENT TONIGHT.
I'M THE SENIOR MANAGER FOR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT, FILLING IN FOR JEFF ROBERTS TODAY.
UM, ALSO FROM THE ZONING TEAM.
WE HAVE SWATHI JOSEPH AND BECCA UR.
UM, AND WE HAVE ERIC KELSON, ALSO FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IN THE URBAN DESIGN, COMMUNITY PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN, UM, DIVISION.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, CASSIE ARNAUD, JANET HAYNES, AND ALEXIS TURON FROM THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL CITY STAFF HERE.
UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE GENERAL BUSINESS ITEM.
IT'S A, A PLANNING BOARD ADVISORY CONSULTATION FOR AN A HO PROJECT AT, UH, 2072 MASS AVE.
UM, THIS IS THE SECOND OF, OF TWO ADVISORY CONSULTATIONS.
LOOKING AHEAD, UM, NEXT WEEK, MARCH 10TH, THERE WILL BE TWO A HO PROJECTS, UH, ONE AT CORCORAN PARK AND THE OTHER AT, UH, TWO 40 BROADWAY.
UH, THIS IS THE SECOND OF TWO ADVISORY CONSULTATIONS FOR CORCORAN PARK AND THE, THE FIRST AND ONLY CONSULTATION FOR TWO 40 BROADWAY.
UM, THE BOARD MIGHT REMEMBER, UM, SOME OF THE MULTI-FAMILY ZONING AMENDMENTS LAST YEAR.
MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE A HO REVIEW PROCESS, UM, WHERE NOT ALL PROJECTS GO THROUGH THIS, THIS TWO ROUND, UM, REVIEW PROCESS.
SO TWO 40 BROADWAY IS ONE OF THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT THAT ONLY TRIGGERS ONE, UH, REVIEW, UH, WITH THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S COMING UP NEXT WEEK.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE SCHEDULED SO FAR FOR, FOR UPCOMING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS.
WE DO HAVE A FEW COUNCIL COMMITTEE HEARINGS COMING UP THAT ARE, ARE RELATED TO SOME, SOME WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, NEXT WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11TH, THERE WILL BE AN ORDINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS, UH, A FUTURE, UH, POTENTIAL ZONING PETITION ON SOME, SOME FOLLOW-UPS FROM THE MASS AVENUE IN CAMBRIDGE STREET PETITIONS RELATED TO ACTIVE USES.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL LIKELY COME BACK AROUND, UM, AS A ZONING PETITION FOR THE, THE BOARD TO REVIEW.
SO THIS IS A, AN INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH THE ORDINANCE COMMITTEE.
UM, LATER IN THE MONTH ON MARCH 24TH, THERE'S A HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, UPDATING THE COUNCIL ON, UM, CENTRAL SQUARE PLANNING.
UM, WE DID SOME, SOME PLANNING AND ZONING WORK, UH, BACK IN, IN 2024.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S KIND OF AN UPDATE ON, ON WHERE THAT, THAT PROCESS LEFT OFF.
UH, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY, THE 25TH, THERE WILL BE A JOINT, UH, MEETING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LONG-TERM PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THE HOUSING COMMITTEE ON THE ANNUAL HOUSING REVIEW.
THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING AMENDMENTS.
UM, IT ESTABLISHED A, AN, AN ANNUAL REVIEW ON, ON HOUSING, UM, PRODUCTION.
SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND, AND WILL BE SHARED, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR UPCOMING WORK, SO I'LL STOP THERE AND PASS IT BACK TO THE CHAIR.
THANK YOU E EVAN, FOR THE UPDATE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EVAN FROM BOARD MEMBERS? UH, IT APPEARS THERE ARE NONE, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA.
THE NEXT ITEM IS AN ADVISORY DESIGN CONSULTATION OF CASE A HO NINE, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY PROJECT PROPOSED BY C-C-H-R-E 2072 MASS AVE, LLC AND C-C-H-R-E 2072, MASS TENANT, LLC TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 12 STORY BUILDING TO CREATE 73 AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS AND AMENITIES, AND 45 LONG-TERM AND ONE SHORT-TERM BICYCLE PARKING SPACE WITH A GROSS FLOOR AREA OF 90,472 SQUARE FEET AT 2072 MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE CDD STAFF EXPLAINING WHY THIS IS BEFORE US.
THEN WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEVELOPER, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE BOARD, THEN THE BOARD WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND FINALLY DISCUSS THE PROPOSED DESIGN.
WITH THAT, UH, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO CDD, I BELIEVE BECCA WILL SUMMARIZE.
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YOU.SO THIS IS THE SECOND OF TWO REQUIRED PLANNING BOARD ADVISORY CONSULTATION SESSIONS FOR THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY PROJECT.
AS A REMINDER, DHO CREATES AN ALTERNATIVE SET OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT APPLY AS OF RIGHT FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN WHICH ALL UNITS ARE MADE PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS DESIGN REVIEW IS NOT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO GRANT OR DENY A PERMIT, BUT TO PROVIDE ADVISORY COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN AND ITS OVERALL CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S URBAN DESIGN OBJECTIVES AND GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE SUMMARIZED IN THE CDD MEMO.
THE PLANNING BOARD REVIEW THIS PROPOSAL ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2025 AND ISSUED A PRELIMINARY REPORT ON OCTOBER 28TH THAT WAS SENT TO THE DEVELOPER.
THE DEVELOPER SUBMITTED A SET OF UPDATED PLANS AND CDD ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN TEAMS HAVE PROVIDED REPORTS ON THOSE TO THE BOARD AND STAFF MEMBERS ARE PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, HERE TODAY, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS ALSO PROVIDED A MEMO WITH COMMENTS ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.
UH, AND TONIGHT THE BOARD WILL REVIEW THE UPDATED PROPOSAL AND THE SITE, BUT COMMENTS TO INCLUDE, UM, IN A FINAL REPORT.
NEXT, THE PRESENTER WHO I UNDERSTAND IS SEAN.
HOPE, UH, WILL HAVE UP TO 30 MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION, THOUGH WE HOPE, UH, YOU CAN BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE SINCE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE HAVE SEEN THE PROPOSAL.
SO PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR PROJECT TEAM AND BEGIN.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY STAFF.
THIS IS OUR SECOND PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE UPDATES AND CHANGES AS WELL AS CERTAIN CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE BASED ON CITY STAFF.
I DON'T SEE THE SLIDES UP HELPFUL.
UH, SO THE SITE IS 2072, AS YOU KNOW, UM, THIS IS AN A HO PROJECT, UM, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY STAFF HAS MENTIONED.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE A HO GUIDELINES AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE THAT APPLY TO THIS PROJECT.
UM, I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH TEAM INTRODUCTIONS, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WE HAVE WITH CAPSTONE, WE HAVE JASON KB, WILLIAM KENNERLEY, MYSELF, SEAN HOPE FOR HOPE REAL ESTATE, AND FOR OUR PROJECT ARCHITECTS, BRUNER COTT, WE HAVE PRINCIPAL JASON FORNEY, GREG RUSSELL JASSY, JACKIE MCN, AND AUSTIN KINNEY.
UM, SO JUST BRIEFLY, I'D LIKE TO WALK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SUMMARY.
UM, AND I WOULD NOTE FOR THE BOARD, UM, THE STAFF HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL, UM, HELPING US KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THE BUILDING PROGRAM, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED AND OR INCORPORATED COMMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, AS WELL AS SOME STAFF DESIGN COMMENTS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE NOW IS, IS THE SITE.
UM, IT'S IMPROVED CURRENTLY BY DORO KEBAB, WHICH IS A ONE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
UM, THAT OPERATION IS NO LONGER, UM, IN BUSINESS.
AND TO THE LEFT, WE HAVE THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS.
ALSO, ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS THE SENIOR CENTER.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A BLANK WALL THERE THAT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKDROP OF WHAT'S THERE.
UM, MANY OF US ARE CON, ARE, UH, FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, USED TO BE THE FORMER KFC.
AND THIS SITE, UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UM, HOW THE BUILDING IS CITED, UH, ADJACENT TO THE CORNER OF WALDEN AND MASS AVE.
ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION DATA.
WE LOOKED AT A QUARTER MILE AND A HALF MILE AWAY.
I THINK THE TAKEAWAY IS THERE'S SOME GREEN SPACE, THERE'S LOTS OF TRANSIT, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PORT OF SQUARE IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER.
AND THAT IS A SHOPPING MALL COMMUTER RAIL.
SO IN MANY WAYS, THIS SITE IS WELL SERVICED BY AMENITIES AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, UM, AFTER OUR SUBMISSION, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF.
AND SO THERE'S SOME D THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT, UH, ELEMENTS THAT YOU WANNA HIGHLIGHT.
BUT TO BEGIN WITH, THIS IS A 12 STORY STRUCTURE, UM, AS REQUIRED BY THE A HO.
THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, WE HAVE 74 AFFORDABLE APARTMENT HOMES THAT WILL BE IN AFFORDABLE AND PERPETUITY.
UM, THERE ARE 12 HOMES AT OR BELOW 30%.
THE REMAINING ARE AT OR BELOW 60% A MI, WHICH IS AREA MEDIA AND INCOME.
UM, WE ARE PROUD THAT 72% ARE FAMILY UNITS, TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS, UH, PASSIVE HOUSE CERTIFICATION.
UM, 600 SQUARE FEET OF THE RESIDE RESIDENTIAL AMENITY SPACE WILL BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CORNER IMAGE, WE HAVE AN OUTDOOR ROOF GARDEN AND RESIDENT AMENITY ON THE 12TH FLOOR.
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LONG-TERM BIKE SPACES.UM, I JUST WOULD WANNA NOTE ON THIS, UH, FORM.
PREVIOUSLY WE HAD 73 UNITS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO BE EFFICIENT WITH OUR LAYOUT, WHICH, UM, ARCHITECT JASON FORNEY WILL WALK THROUGH.
AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING 74 UNITS, AND WE CAN WALK THROUGH HOW THAT CHANGE CAME ABOUT.
UM, JASON, I WOULD NOW TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO WALK THROUGH THE DESIGN UPDATES.
THANK YOU, SEAN, AND GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN VIC, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND CITY STAFF.
I'M JASON FORNEY, PRINCIPAL WITH BRUNER COTT ARCHITECTS IN BOSTON.
UM, AS SEAN, UM, ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DEVELOP AND ADVANCE THE DESIGN, UM, OF THIS BUILDING.
AND TONIGHT IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE REALLY WILL FOCUS ON, UH, THE CHANGES IN ADDITIONAL DETAILS SINCE OUR FIRST HEARING, UM, AS REQUESTED.
SO THIS BUILDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT, UH, TRANSFORMING AN UNDERUTILIZED SITE INTO AN ELEGANT CONTEMPORARY BUILDING THAT HAS MEANINGFUL, UM, CONNECTIONS AND EXPERIENCES FOR AS RESIDENTS, UM, AS A TRANSIT FRIENDLY DEVELOPMENT, AND, UM, INTEGRATES, UH, BEST SUSTAINABLE DESIGN PRACTICES.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO I WANT TO START BY JUST SUMMARIZING, UM, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED.
UM, WE'VE KIND OF, UH, REMEMBER THAT WE WERE HERE IN OCTOBER.
UM, IN OUR VIEW, UH, THE, THE PROJECT WAS WELL RECEIVED AND WE RECEIVED SOME VERY HELPFUL FEEDBACK, UH, WHICH I WOULD CATEGORIZE.
WE CATEGORIZED INTO, UH, FOUR, UM, FOUR GROUPS.
SO WE, WE DISCUSSED, UM, SOME THOUGHTS ON THE EXTERIOR DESIGN TO SORT OF WORK ON, UH, UM, REVISING THE GEOMETRY AND THE SORT OF DIVISIONS OF THE FACADE, AND TO REALLY WORK ON COORDINATING THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR LAYOUTS AND STRUCTURE.
WE TALKED A, I THINK THE MOST FEEDBACK WE GOT WAS ABOUT THE GROUND FLOOR AND THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
WE'VE WORKED PROBABLY THE HARDEST ON THAT.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SITE DESIGN AND THE WAY THAT THINGS IN THE GROUND PLANE WERE CONNECTING TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THINGS LIKE BICYCLES AND TRASH SERVICE AND ELECTRICAL SERVICE.
AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, THE OVERALL PLANNING OF THE BUILDING, WHICH, UH, WERE VERY HELPFUL AND HAVE LED TO, UH, A SET OF IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I'LL START WITH, UM, THE EXTERIOR DESIGN AND JUST A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICS.
WE ARE ASKED TO THINK ABOUT THE SIZE AND SHAPES OF THE WINDOWS AND THE FACADES, THE AMOUNT OF TRANSPARENCY, UH, THE MATERIAL QUALITY, UM, THE WAY THAT WE'RE SORT OF DIVIDING THE FACADE UP WITH THESE VERTICAL RECESSES TO LOOK AGAIN AT THE, THE COLOR AND SEE IF WE COULD MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT WARMER.
UM, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
THINKING ABOUT THE FRAME, UM, AND THE, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL MEMBERS, WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO CONSIDER A FEW THINGS, WHICH WE, WE DID NOT DO.
AND ONE OF THOSE IS, IS, UH, TO CONSIDER BALCONIES.
SO, UM, I WANNA START OFF BY, UM, HIGHLIGHTING, UH, UM, A CHANGE THAT, UM, HAPPENED AFTER OUR SUBMISSION AND, AND WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF.
UM, ON THE LEFT IS WHAT WAS IN THE SUBMISSION WITH THREE, UH, FACADE RECESSES.
AND WE REALIZED THAT ANOTHER CHANGE WE HAD MADE IN THE, IN THE SORT OF PLANNING OF THE BUILDING, UM, CAUSED US TO NO LONGER HAVE A RECESS ON THE, UM, THE EAST FACADE.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT WITH THE BIG NUMBER FOUR, UM, WE'VE ADDED A, A RECESS IN THE FACADE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN ALL OF THE SUBSEQUENT MATERIALS.
AND THAT'S THE, TO COMPLY WITH, UM, THE FACADE RECESS PROVISION OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, THE BUILDING FROM, UM, THE CORNER ALONG MASS AVENUE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, WE SORT OF, ONE OF THE BIGGEST SHIFT WAS TO MOVE THAT REVEAL ON THE WALDEN STREET FACADE CLOSER TO MASS AVENUE, WHICH I THINK REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THAT CORNER.
IT TURNS IT INTO, UM, A SORT OF WRAPPING VOLUME WITH THREE BAYS ON EACH SIDE, AND REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THAT ROOF GARDEN SPACE ON THE TOP.
UM, WE ALSO WORKED HARD TO COORDINATE THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR UNITS, ROUGHLY THE SMALLER WINDOWS OR BEDROOMS AND THE LARGER WINDOWS OR LIVING ROOMS. AND THEN HERE YOU START TO SEE, UM, THE, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE GROUND FLOOR TO LIGHTEN IT AND TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT AND TO INCLUDE A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART OR A SPACE FOR PUBLIC ART.
UH, WE JUST WANT TO SHARE THE MASSING MODEL, UM, OF THE BUILDING.
SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTH CORNER, THE WEST CORNER, THE SOUTH CORNER, AND, UH, THE CORNER LOOKING AS
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YOU'RE COMING UP MASS AVENUE.SO THAT'S THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE THE WAY IT'S DIVIDED BY THESE, UM, REVEALS AND, UH, FACADE DELINEATIONS.
UM, LOOKING FROM, UM, THE NORTH SIDE SORT OF COMING DOWN THE AVENUE AGAIN, YOU SEE, UM, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALWAYS, WE'VE ALWAYS LIKED ABOUT THE DESIGN IS THE, THE FOLD THAT HAPPENS ON THE NORTH FACADE ALONG MASS AVENUE THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS THAT PLACE, UH, WHERE THE AVENUE BENDS.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, UM, ON THE FIRST SLIDE, JUST FROM A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK UP THE ROAD, UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW SHIFTING THAT REVEAL FORWARD REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THAT CORNER PIECE WITH THE ROOF GARDEN ON IT, UH, WHICH WAS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN OUR DESIGN.
LOOKING FROM THE SOUTH SIDE HERE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, UH, THAT FACADE RECESS THAT I WAS TALKING OUT ABOUT BETWEEN THE, THE MASS AVENUE, UM, SORT OF VOLUME AND THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THIS FACADE, WE ALSO MOVED, UM, THE BOUNDARY OF THE BUILDING BACK.
UH, IT WAS THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE MOVED IT TO FIVE FEET, WHICH ALLOWED US TO OPEN UP AND HAVE A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF FENESTRATION ALONG THIS FACADE, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE, THE BIG COMMENTS.
WE DID CONSIDER BALCONIES ALONG THIS FACADE, AS WAS SUGGESTED.
BUT, UM, THEY, IT DIDN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE A GREAT IDEA TO US IN TERMS OF RESIDENT SAFETY, AND IT WOULD'VE ADDED COST TO THE PROJECT.
UM, SO AGAIN, MORE ARTICULATION AND SORT OF, UM, MATERIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS FACADE.
AND LOOKING FROM WALDEN STREET, UH, A SIMILAR THING, UM, WORKING ON, WE ALSO MOVED THIS, THIS PROP, THIS, UH, BUILDING BOUNDARY BACK, UM, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE, WE COULD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRANSPARENCY AND KIND OF OPEN IT UP, UM, WORKING ON THE MATERIALS, IT'S A SLIGHTLY WARMER PALETTE, UH, WHICH WE THINK IS HARMONIZES REALLY WELL WITH THE MASS TIMBER STRUCTURE THAT YOU WOULD EX YOU SORT OF SEE OR, UH, THROUGH THE, THE TRANSPARENT PARTS OF THE FACADE.
UM, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE HAD A, A DARK GRAY BRICK ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND WE'VE MOVED TOWARDS, UM, SORT OF A, A BUFF COLORED BRICK, UM, THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT I THINK REALLY, UM, SOFTENS THAT GROUND PLANE AND BRINGS EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
AND WE'VE ALSO ADDED A, UH, A PRECAST CONCRETE BASE THAT WOULD MATCH IT, UH, BUT GIVE THE KIND OF DURABILITY THAT YOU NEED IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT ALONG THE GROUND PLANE.
UM, NEXT TO THOSE PLANTERS, I'LL JUST GO QUICKLY THROUGH THE ELEVATIONS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE GROUND PLANE IN A MOMENT.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE OVERALL ELEVATIONS.
UM, THE NORTH ELEVATION ON MASS AVE, SEEING THE KIND OF CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE DIVISION OF THE FACADE AND THE FENESTRATION, THE WALDEN STREET FACADE, SOUTH ELEVATION FACING, UH, THE CITY OWNED PARKING LOT WITH A ROW OF TREES, UM, AT THE BASE OF THE BUILDING, EAST ELEVATION FACING THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS.
AGAIN, WE OPENED THIS UP, UH, WORKED ON THE SORT OF SUBDIVISIONS, UM, AND RECESSES HERE.
SO I'M GONNA SHIFT NOW TO THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
UH, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS JUST THE, THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING MEETS THE GROUND.
SO YOU ASKED US AND THE CITY, UH, STAFF ASKED US TO CONSIDER MAKING THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT TALLER AT THE GROUND FLOOR, UM, TO GIVE IT MORE PRESENCE AND TRANSPARENCY TO, UM, CONSIDER, UH, RESHUFFLING THE PROGRAM ON THE GROUND FLOOR IN A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE THE BUILDING, UM, UH, IT WOULD CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FENESTRATION AND TRANSPARENCY.
UM, WE, THAT WOULD, THAT'S REALLY THE SOUTHWEST FACADE.
WE WERE ASKED TO WORK ON THE ENTRY AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE, UH, PREVALENT AND PRONOUNCED, MORE TRANSPARENCY, MORE VISUAL INTEREST, UM, MATERIALS AT THE GROUND FLOOR, AND THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF, UM, MASS AVE WITH THE STREET SCAPE AND THE PLANNING THAT'S, UH, INTENDED THERE.
SO HERE WE ARE LOOKING, UH, UP CLOSER AT THE, THE CORNER OF MASS AVE AND WALDEN.
SO THE, UH, COMMUNITY ROOM IS ON, ON THE CORNER THERE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO RAISE THE BUILDING HEIGHT, UM, BY TWO FEET.
UM, SO IT WENT FROM 16 TO 18, AND I THINK THAT'S MADE A, A REALLY NICE DIFFERENCE.
UM, THE GROUND FLOOR IS MORE PROMINENT.
UM, WE'VE FLATTENED OUT THE ENTRY.
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RECESSED FAIRLY DEEP INTO THE FACADE, AND WE'VE BROUGHT IT OUT SORT OF IN PLAIN, SO IT HAS MORE OF A PRESENCE ON THE STREET.UM, WE'VE ADDED, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, A A, A PLACEHOLDER FOR A MURAL OR A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART BEHIND THE BUS STOP.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE BUS STOP WILL STAY OR GO, BUT WE'RE PLANNING, UM, UH, FOR BOTH.
AND I THINK EITHER, EITHER WAY, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT BACKDROP FOR A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART.
UM, AND HERE YOU SEE THE LIGHTER BRICK THAT WE'VE, UM, WORKED INTO.
THE DESIGN ALONG THE GROUND PLANE IS SORT OF BUFF COLOR THAT ALSO MAKES ITS WAY UP THROUGH THE FACADE RECESSES A LITTLE BIT.
UM, MORE AROUND THE CORNER HERE, YOU START TO SEE THE PLANTERS THAT ARE FEATURED.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS, IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE PLANTERS, UM, ALONG WALDEN STREET? SO WHAT WE'VE ENDED UP DOING IS, WE THINK THERE IS, UM, BUT IT STARTS TO GET TIGHT AT THE CORNER.
SO WE ELIMINATE, WE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE PLANTERS AT THE CORNER ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT WE'RE HAVE, WE HAVE THEM ON THE INSIDE.
SO THERE'S SORT OF THIS JUMP FROM INSIDE TO OUTSIDE.
UM, JUST AN ELEVATIONAL VIEW OF THAT, UH, GROUND PLANE EXPERIENCE.
AND THEN WALDEN STREET, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF BLANK WALL ON THIS FACADE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, EXTEND THE GLAZING OF THE COMMUNITY ROOM FURTHER AROUND THE CORNER, UH, TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF THIS DRAWING.
AND THEN ADD WINDOWS INTO THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE AND THE MAIL ROOM AND WORK ROOM, UH, WHICH ARE REALLY A, A PART OF THAT PUBLIC REALM TOO.
AND THEN SORT OF RECALIBRATE, UM, THE DOOR.
THE, THE DOOR THAT YOU SEE AT THE, UM, FAR END OF THE BUILDING IS A ROLL-UP DOOR FOR THE TRANSFORMER.
AND THE DOOR NEXT TO THAT IS FOR THE FIRE SPRINKLER, UH, ROOM.
SO WE'VE, WE SORT OF MORE INTENTIONALLY WORKED THESE INTO THE FACADE, UM, ALONG WITH THAT PLANTER THAT SORT OF COMES DOWN, UM, AS WALDEN STREET SLOPES TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS I THINK, IS IMPROVED AND UNIFIED BY USING A LIGHTER COLOR BRICK, UH, VIEW OF THAT.
UM, WITH THE CITY OWNED PARKING LOT IN THE FOREGROUND AND A, A ROW OF NEW TREES BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE BUILDING ON THE SITE DESIGN, UH, ELEMENTS.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT LOADING AND DROP OFF, UM, STREET SCAPE DESIGN AND THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF MASS AVENUE.
UM, CONTINUING TO, UM, SEE OUR, OUR INTENT TO WIDEN WALDEN STREET AS A POSITIVE THING.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT A TREE THAT'S IN BETWEEN, THAT'S ON THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS BUILDING THAT COULD BE AFFECTED BY OUR CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND I, I JUST TALKED ABOUT THE PLANTERS AND, UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BIKE ROOM AND CONCEALING TRASH.
UM, SOMEONE, UH, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE THINK ABOUT PARKING ON SITE, BUT WE, UH, ARE NOT DOING THAT.
THERE'S ZERO PARKING FOR THIS PROJECT.
STARTING WITH THE SITE, UH, PLAN ITSELF.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
WE'VE MET WITH DPW AND, UH, UH, TRAFFIC AND CDD SORT OF COLLECTIVELY TO THINK ABOUT WITH, THERE'S TWO POSSIBILITIES.
ONE IS THAT THE, THE BUILD THE DROP OFF COULD HAPPEN ON MASS AVENUE.
THE OTHER IS THAT IT COULD HAPPEN FROM THE CITY PARKING LOT, AND WE REALLY NEED TO WAIT AND SEE, UM, HOW THE MASS AVENUE PLAN DEVELOPS.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY TO, UM, SUPPORT AND HELP US FIGURE THAT OUT AS IT EVOLVES.
UM, WE ARE SHOWING SOME SEEDING, UM, HYPOTHETICALLY ALONG MASS AVENUE, WHICH KIND OF, UM, SOME BENCHES AND PLANTERS, WHICH COULD BE THERE IF THAT, IF THAT IS A PART OF THE MASS AVENUE PLAN.
SIDEWALK IS REALLY NICE AND WIDE RIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT WE KNOW THINGS COULD CHANGE WITH SEPARATED BIKE LANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE AIMING TO BE FLEXIBLE AND ALLOW FOR THAT PLAN TO EVOLVE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE CORNER PLANTER THAT I TALKED ABOUT, WHERE IT JUMPS FROM INSIDE TO OUTSIDE, WHICH LEAVES PLENTY OF SPACE TO WALK AROUND THAT CORNER.
AND, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXISTING TREE, UM, WHICH IS JUST TO THE EAST OF OUR BUILDING.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS, IF YOU, IF YOU SEE THIS DRAWING, THE RED LINE IS WHERE THE BUILDING USED TO BE.
SO BY PULLING IT BACK, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY AT THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T NEED ANY WINDOWS.
SO WE'VE PULLED THE WHOLE BUILDING BACK FIVE FEET, AND WE THINK THAT WILL INCREASE, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF
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THAT TREE SURVIVING.BUT IF NOT, UM, THE TEAM IS COMMITTED TO REPLACING IT.
AND OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THINKS THAT, UM, AN AMERICAN HORN BEAM OR HORN BEAMS WOULD BE A GOOD REPLACEMENT TREE FOR THAT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FULL TREE PROTECTION PLAN FROM OUR ARBORIST, UM, WHO THINKS THAT IT, THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD IT WILL SURVIVE.
UH, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TO, TO NOTE ON THIS DRAWING.
UM, WE HAVE RELO, WE'VE REORIENTED THE DOORS FOR THE TRASH ROOM.
THEY WERE OPENING STRAIGHT OUT ONTO MASS AVENUE, AND NOW THEY'RE OPENING INTO THE ALLEYWAY BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS, UH, WHICH IS A, UM, MORE CONCEALED SOLUTION.
THERE IS A DOOR FROM THE BIKE ROOM ALSO INTO THAT, THAT ALLEYWAY.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO CONCEAL, UH, MOVING THE BUILDING BACK GAVE US A, A NUMBER OF ADVANTAGES THERE.
BIKE PARKING, UH, SEAN MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, UM, WORKING WITH THE CDD STAFF AND, AND REALIZING THAT IF WE USE A CERTAIN TYPE OF RACK THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FIT, UM, 45 BICYCLES ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHEREAS WE HAD A SMALL BIKE ROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER THAT, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT 45.
BUT JUST BY LOOKING AT IT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY AND USING A CERTAIN TYPE OF RACK, WE CAN GET ALL THESE BIKES ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.
UM, THE OTHER THING WE WORKED ON WITH THE BICYCLE PARKING IS A BETTER ACCESS TO THE ROOM.
UM, WE ARE STILL, UH, SORT OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE BUILDING WITH THEIR BICYCLES.
IT'S AN 11 FOOT WIDE PASSAGEWAY, UM, FROM THE FRONT DOORS, AND THEN ONE TURN INTO THE BIKE ROOM BEFORE WE HAD A COUPLE OF TURNS AND A MUCH NARROWER WAY INTO THAT, UM, ALLEYWAY.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE CONTEMPLATED PUTTING A, A ROOM, UM, A DOOR TO THE SOUTH, BUT ONE OF THE BIG, UM, REQUESTS FROM THE, FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS WAS TO KEEP ALL OF THE, THE TRAFFIC AND ENERGY AND, UM, SERVICES ON MASS AVENUE AND NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A GRADE CHANGE BETWEEN THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THE OUTSIDE.
AND THEN THAT IS A, UH, A BUFFER PLANTING AREA THAT WE'RE REALLY, IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY WAYS OF, OF US ACHIEVING OUR, OUR COOL SCORE.
SO THERE WERE SEVERAL REASONS THAT WE CHOSE TO NOT HAVE BICYCLES COME OUT OF THE, UH, THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.
WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON, UM, SORT OF THE RE-IMAGINING OF WALDEN STREET AND TAKING IT FROM, UH, ONE 10 FOOT LANE AND TWO, I THINK EIGHT FOOT LANES TO, UH, THREE PROPER 10 FOOT TRAVEL LANES.
UM, AND REMEMBER THAT WE'RE SORT OF GIVING BACK A LITTLE BIT OF OUR PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT ALSO CANTILEVERING THE BUILDING, UM, FROM THE SECOND FLOOR AND BEYOND TO KIND OF, UH, CREATE A BALANCE THERE.
SO THE SIDEWALK IS SEVEN FOOT TWO FROM THE BUILDING EDGE WITH A TWO FOOT PLANTER, WHICH LEAVES ABOUT FIVE FEET FOR WALKING, EXCEPT WHEN YOU GET AT THE CORNER, THEN IT, IT OPENS BACK UP.
UM, THE LAST SORT OF CATEGORY HERE, UM, TO GO THROUGH OUR, OUR, UM, ADJUSTMENTS AND CHANGES IS ABOUT THE BUILDING PLANNING.
UM, WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO COORDINATE TIGHTER WITH OUR STRUCTURAL GRID TO THINK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, UM, IMPROVED BIKE ROOM ACCESS, MAKE IT CLEAR WHERE OUR, UM, ACCESSIBLE UNITS ARE, UM, TO CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF LAUNDRY MACHINES.
AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, JUST PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, UH, ABOUT THE CONCEPT AND AND ARRANGEMENT OF THE ROOF GARDEN, UH, WHICH I'M EXCITED TO SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE.
UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CONSIDERING A BASEMENT LEVEL, UM, CONSIDERING TO MOVE THE ROOF GARDEN TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUILDING AND TO CONSIDER ELIMINATING THE GENERATOR.
UM, BUT I THINK AS WE WORK THROUGH THOSE, THERE, THERE WAS MIXED OPINIONS ON SOME OF THOSE.
UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO PURSUE.
SO I'LL START WITH THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN.
UM, AND THIS IS SHOWING WHERE THAT BIKE ROOM WAS, UM, THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED WE NO LONGER NEED.
AND SO OUR CURRENT PLAN MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE TO CONVERT THAT INTO A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT.
AND THAT'S WHY, UM, THE NUMBER HAS CHANGED FROM 73 TO 74.
UH, THIS ALSO MAKES THE BUILDING STACK, UM, PERFECTLY, WHICH IS A GOOD THING FOR OUR, UH, FOR OUR ECONOMICS.
UM, SO THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE WAY THE BUILDING LOOKS OR FEELS ON THE
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EXTERIOR, THE WINDOWS AND, UM, FACADES ALL REMAIN THE SAME.IT'S JUST AN INTERNAL BUILDING CHANGE.
SO THAT'S THE SAME AS THE TYPICAL FLOOR.
UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH INCORPORATING THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE AND THINKING ABOUT HOW THE WINDOWS RELATE TO THE UNITS, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE LIVING ROOMS ON THE CORNER OR BEDROOMS, UM, ALONG, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE WITH THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS.
AND ALSO, UM, WE HAVE THREE STRUCTURAL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, ALL OF WHICH CAN BE COORDINATED WITH THIS GRID.
UM, THREE DIFFERENT WAYS OF USING MASS TIMBER, WHICH REMAINS, UH, AN IMPORTANT PART, UM, OF OUR CONCEPT.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A VARIANCE AT THE STATE, UM, UH, STATE, STATE BOARD, UM, TO EXPOSE, UM, MORE OF THE MASS TIMBER THAN IS ALLOWED BY CODE.
SO, UM, WE SEE THAT AS A VERY POSITIVE THING AND WILL JUST ALLOW FOR THE MASS TIMBER TO BE A IMPORTANT PART OF THE INTERIOR OF THESE UNITS.
UH, WE ARE SHOWING OUR, UM, MORE DETAIL ON WHERE OUR ACCESSIBLE UNITS ARE.
WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE EIGHT GROUP, TWO A UNITS, THREE, ONE BEDROOM OR TWO BEDROOMS, AND ONE THREE BEDROOM.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE, UM, UH, DISTRIBUTED THEM EQUALLY AMONGST, UM, A ACROSS THE BUILDING AND AMONGST THE DIFFERENT UNIT TYPES.
AND AT THE 12TH FLOOR, UM, WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT, UH, WITH, WITH BOTH THE VENDOR AND THE BUILDING CODE, WE HAVE EIGHT WASHERS AND EIGHT DRYERS, WHICH IS ONE FOR EVERY 10 UNITS.
I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THE ROOF PLAN FOR A SECOND, AND THEN THE ROOF GARDEN.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT THAT CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STAFF WAS, UH, SORT OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND GUIDANCE TO PULL THE EQUIPMENT AWAY FROM THE EDGE, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UH, THE, THE ZONING.
SO THIS WAS THE ROOF PLAN THAT WAS, UM, IN OUR SUBMISSION PACKAGE.
AND THIS IS THE ROOF PLAN, WHICH WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD FOR ALL OF WHICH MOVES THE EQUIPMENT BACK FROM THE EDGES.
UM, I SHOULD SAY THAT THE RENDERINGS WERE ALL DONE WITH THE SCREEN CLOSER TO THE EDGE, SO THIS WILL ONLY IMPROVE THE WAY THE BUILDING LOOKS AND FEELS FROM THE GROUND.
AND THEN WE ARE INCLUDING, UM, A SMALL SOLAR ARRAY ON TOP OF THE MECHANICAL ROOM AND ELEVATOR OVERRUN.
SO, UH, SINCE WE LAST MET, WE MET WITH, UM, JASON AND SEAN AND THEIR TEAM PULLED TOGETHER RESIDENTS OF FROST TERRACE, WHICH IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE WORKED ON TOGETHER.
AND WE HAD A, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DESIGN CHARETTE WITH THEM ABOUT, HEY, IF YOU LIVED IN A BUILDING LIKE 2072 AND IT HAD A ROOF TERRACE, WHAT WERE THE, WHAT ARE THE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO UP THERE? AND SO, UM, THIS, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE SOME OF OUR PRECONCEPTIONS, WHICH WERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LARGER GATHERINGS AND BEING ABLE TO DO THINGS AS, AS A GROUP.
UM, WHAT THEY, WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THEM IS THAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT JUST TO BE OUTSIDE AND BE IN A PLACE SURROUNDED BY THE CITY AND SURROUNDED BY PLANTS, UM, AND BEING ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT YOU DO ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS.
LIKE, SIT AT A TABLE AND EAT, SIT AT A, SIT ON A COUCH AND READ OR TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS.
AND THEN, UM, FOR THE KIDS IN THE GROUP, UH, TO HAVE SOMEWHERE THAT SORT OF FELT LIKE THEIR OWN.
SO THIS, UM, REVISED ROOF TERRACE DESIGN INCLUDES KIND OF THREES ZONES, UM, ONE WITH THE LARGE PICNIC TABLE AND BENCHES, ONE WITH AN L-SHAPED COUCH, UM, KINDA LOOKING OUT OVER THE EDGE AND ANOTHER WITH A SMALL PLAY STRUCTURE.
UM, THIS IS A RENDERED VERSION OF THAT SAME PLAN, UH, A SMALL PLAYHOUSE FOR, UH, KIDS THAT LIVE IN THE BUILDING.
SO THIS IS NOT A HIGH INTENSITY OR ACTIVITY ROOF, IT'S MORE OF A RELAXING PLACE TO BE SURROUNDED BY GREEN AND SORT OF SENSE THAT YOU'RE IN THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO ONE THAT'S ABOUT WALKING UP AND LOOKING OVER THE EDGE OF HOW COLD A VIEW IS.
IT'S ABOUT BEING, UM, IN COMMUNITY WITH YOUR FELLOW RESIDENTS.
UM, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT, SORT OF ILLUSTRATE HOW THIS MIGHT HAPPEN TECHNICALLY.
AND THIS IS A, UM, SORT OF A SECTION THROUGH THE ROOF TERRACE, UM, BY GROUND OR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
SO THE PLANTERS WOULD ALL SORT OF BE BUILT ON THE STRUCTURAL DECK.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE FURNISHED AREAS WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF WOOD DECK AND PRECAST PAVERS ON A PEDESTAL SYSTEM SO THAT THE ROOF DRAINAGE, UM, CAN ROOF DRAINAGE AND ROOF SLOPES JUST HAPPEN UNDERNEATH THEM, UM,
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WITH TALLER PLANTINGS AROUND THE EDGE THAT REALLY BECOME A PART OF THE BUILDING AND THE LANDSCAPE, UM, GROUND ALSO, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS FROM LAST TIME WAS, DO PLANTS THRIVE AND SURVIVE AT HEIGHTS LIKE THIS? AND SO THESE ARE, UM, SIX EXAMPLES OF, OF PROJECTS, UM, BY THE SAME LANDSCAPE FIRM, UM, THAT ARE AT DIFF AT, AT SIMILAR HEIGHTS FROM 14 TO 17 TO 19, STORIES THAT, UM, HAVE ALL BEEN IN SERVICE FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND SORT OF SHOW THAT THIS IS A, A REASONABLE PLACE TO PUT PLANTS AND, AND PEOPLE.AND WHAT I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR DESIGN, THAT THERE'S THIS SPECIAL OUTDOOR PLACE THAT OCCUPIES WHAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY IS THE MOST VALUABLE REAL ESTATE ON THE SITE, UH, THE 12TH FLOOR RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
AND SO THAT REMAINS A VERY PROMINENT FEATURE OF THIS DESIGN.
AND I'LL TURN IT BACK TO SEAN TO, UM, CLOSE US, UH, CLOSE US OUT AND, UM, TURN IT BACK TO YOU.
UM, I THINK WE, WE, WE PRESENTED A LOT, SO I WOULD NOW TURN IT BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD IF YOU WANNA DO PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ASK US ANY QUESTIONS.
GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, BY MY STOPWATCH, 29 MINUTES, 27 SECONDS.
SO JUST UNDER THE WIRE, THANK YOU, UH, FOR BEING ON TIME.
UM, NOW, UM, UH, ACCORDING TO THE ZONING, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO, UH, AND WE DO THAT AT THESE DESIGN REVIEW SESSIONS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND SPEAKER THIS, THAT THE BOARD'S ACTION TONIGHT IS NOT TO APPROVE OR DENY THIS APPLICATION, BUT TO PROVIDE ADVISORY COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND EVOLVED SINCE THE LAST PRESENTATION.
SO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK SHOULD NOW CLICK THE BUTTON THAT SAYS RAISE HAND.
AND IF YOU'RE CALLING IN BY PHONE, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND BY PRESSING STAR NINE.
AND AS OF 5:00 PM YESTERDAY, THE BOARD HAD RECEIVED SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM YOUNG KIM FREDERICO NIK AND PAMELA WINTERS, UH, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED AFTER 5:00 PM YESTERDAY WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.
SO I WILL NOW ASK STAFF TO UNMUTE SPEAKERS ONE AT A TIME.
UH, YOU SHOULD BEGIN BY SAYING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
AFTER THAT, YOU'LL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK BEFORE I'LL ASK YOU TO WRAP UP.
UH, EVAN, ARE YOU GONNA RUN THAT TONIGHT FOR US? YES.
WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE THREE HANDS RAISED SO FAR.
SO JUST A REMINDER, PLEASE PUSH THE RAISED HAND BUTTON TO GET IN THE QUEUE.
UH, THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE YOUNG KIM, FOLLOWED BY LUKE SMITH, UM, YOUNG.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD STREET.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU EVENING PLEASE.
AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IF IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS MEETING BE CONTINUED OR COULD THE APPLICANT SUBMIT YOUR REVIEW PACKAGE THAT CLEARLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY RESPOND TO THE ISSUES ARE ONLINE.
AS OF RIGHT EXEMPLARY DESIGN AND EXEMPLARY DOCUMENTATION SHOULD ALSO BE EXPECTED AS OF RIGHT, BECAUSE 2072 MASS AVENUE IS CAMBRIDGE FIRST 12 STORY RESIDENTIAL MASS TIMBER BUILDING UNDER THE AFFORDABLE HOUSE
THIS IS PRESTON SETTING ADVISORY REVIEW.
THAT BENCHMARK IS NOT CONJECTURE.
IN 2024, THE SAME DEVELOPER TEAM ACQUIRED THE ROSELAND FIRST PORTFOLIO USING CAMBRIDGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUNDING WITH A CTD MEMORANDUM EX, UH, EXPLICITLY REFERENCING A PLAN TO COMBINE THOSE, UH, SIX PARCELS WITH FIRST TERRACE TO DEVELOP THE COMBINED THAT AS A MASS AVENUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERLAY CORRIDOR PROJECT THAT ASSEMBLED LAND AREA TOTALS APPROXIMATELY HUNDRED 50,000 SQUARE FEET, ROUGHLY 17 TIMES THE LOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, GIVEN HOW TIGHTLY A 12 STORY BUILDING CAN BE ACCOMMODATED HERE AT THE RIGHT, THE REVIEW STANDARDS YOU ESTABLISHED TONIGHT WILL CARRY ACROSS IN SCALE WITH SIMILAR HEIGHT BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED ON THE COMBINED SITE.
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PROJECT IS DESIGNED DESIGNATED AS A HO OH NINE IN CDTS PIPELINE OF THE EIGHT A HO PROJECT THAT PRECEDED IT.AT LEAST SIX SUBMITTED DETAILED RESPONSE MA MATRICES CLEARLY LINKING PLANNING BOARD COMMENTS TO SPECIFIC VISION.
THE CURRENT SUBMISSION DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF TRACEABLE DOCUMENTATION.
A REVISED PACKAGE SHOULD INCLUDE A TRACEABLE MATRIX AND CLEARLY ADDRESS CONTEXTUAL TRANSITION AND UPPER LEVEL MODERATION OF CONTINUOUS ACCESSORY PATH FROM CURB TO ACCESSIBLE UNITS PROMISED BY GPW.
AND, UH, TRANSPORTATION FOR, UH, POSSIBLE SOLUTION IN THE FUTURE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTABLE.
THIS, THERE WILL BE, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY ACCESSIBLE UNIT THERE ARE, BUT WITHOUT ANY, UH, COMMITTED, UH, ACCESSIBLE PATH.
THIS WILL BE, UH, THIS WILL NOT FULFILL DESIGN GUIDELINES.
URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, THE SHARED IN, IN AND OUT SPACE IS PROPORTIONATE TO 74 UNITS.
UH, WHAT YOU ARE PROVIDING IS NOT PROPORTIONAL, CLEAR DOCUMENTATION OF RENEWABLE CONTRIBUTION, DOMESTIC HOT WATER STRATEGY, PEAK LOAD PERFORMANCE, AND SYSTEM REDUNDANCY AT ELECTRICITY, PROVIDED BY THE
WHAT'S THERE IS NO CITY GUIDELINE FOR BUILDING THIS TYPE.
OKAY, MR. KIM, I, I, YOU'RE BEYOND YOUR TIME HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.
CAN ONE SENTENCE PLEASE? ONE SENTENCE? YES, GO AHEAD.
WHEN HEIDI IS PERMITTED, AS OF RIGHT DOCUMENTATION CLARITY BECOMES ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING MECHANISMS FOR PROPORTIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE AND PRESENT SETTING NATURE, THAT LEVEL OF PROPORTIONAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO FINISH MY STATEMENT.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRESPONDENCE AS WELL.
UM, NEXT SPEAKER, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED.
IT'S, UM, LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE MORE, UM, HAVE RAISED THEIR HANDS PLEASE.
UH, UH, IF YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK, PUSH THE RAISE HAND BUTTON TO GET IN THE QUEUE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, JAMIE CHOCO.
I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME.
UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 12 RIDGE AVENUE, NUMBER THREE.
UM, YEAH, SO I OWN A PLACE, MAYBE A BLOCK AND A HALF OR SO FROM THE PROPOSED, UM, FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION.
AND YEAH, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I'M EXCITED TO WELCOME, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOOD.
THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JAMES ZAL.
AND, UH, THAT IS THE, THE FINAL SPEAKER IN THE QUEUE.
IF YOU DO WANT TO, UM, SPEAK, PLEASE PUSH THE RAISED HAND BUTTON TO GET IN THE LINE.
UH, JAMES, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HI, THIS IS, UH, JAMES ZAL, 2 0 3 PEMBERTON STREET, AND I, UH, AM HAPPY THAT WE'VE REACHED THIS STAGE IN THIS PROJECT.
I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, CERTAINLY THE, THE, THE PRINCIPLES AND THEIR ARCHITECTS AND STAFF THAT HAVE HELPED, THAT HELPED, UH, BRING THIS PROJECT TO THIS POINT.
IT, I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, BOTH THE CURRENT ONES AND THE ONES WHO, UH, REMEMBER AN EARLIER VERSION OF THIS PROJECT, PERHAPS, UH, SIX OR SEVEN OR SO YEARS AGO.
AND I AM VERY HAPPY THAT AS I SAY THAT WE'VE GOT TO THIS POINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, 73
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NEW HOMES IN THE AREA IN A, UH, WONDERFUL LOOKING BUILDING.AND, UM, UH, I HOPE THIS IS, UH, AS YOUNG KIM SAYS, I HOPE THIS, UH, CONTINUES TO, UH, PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, DESIGNING HOUSING AND APPROVING HOUSING AND, UH, REVIEWING THE A HO AND APPLYING IT THAT CONTINUES LONG INTO THE FUTURE.
THE, EXCUSE ME, THE FINAL SPEAKER IN LINE IS KIRSTEN GRECO.
UH, KIRSTEN, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY ADDRESS IS 2103 MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE, UM, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.
AND I ACTUALLY LIVE IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT.
UM, OUR CONDO BUILDING IS NINE UNITS, UM, AND THEIR HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, THE ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS THE WIDENING OF WALDEN STREET, UM, IN THE, UH, DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED PREVIOUS, OR LIKE BEFORE THE MEETING, UM, IT SAID IT WAS DEPENDENT ON SOMETHING TO DO WITH SOMETHING UNDERGROUND.
EVERSOURCE, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT, BUT THERE'S SOME DISCOVERY THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE TO, UH, DETERMINE IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU CAN'T WIDEN, UH, WALDEN STREET.
AND THEN, UM, ARE YOU THINKING, THINKING ABOUT WAYS TO, UH, ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THE ALLEYWAY? UM, WE HAVE AN ALLEYWAY ON OUR PROPERTY AND WELL SORT OF, AND, UH, RANDOM PEOPLE WALK BACK THERE ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INCIDENCES WITH UNHOUSED PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT SAFETY IN THAT AREA, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, PROPONENT TO ANSWER THOSE.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE, UH, EVAN THAT YOU SEE, UH, WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON LOOKS LIKE THEY RAISED THEIR, THEIR HAND, UH, LUKE SMITH.
UM, YOU, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU ARE STILL MUTED IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEAK.
UM, THERE IS ANOTHER, UH, PERSON WHO HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.
UH, CHRISTIAN ABNEY SHOULD BE, UH, ALLOWED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
UH, PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I WANTED TO SAY THAT IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESPONSES TO THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED.
UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THE CHANGES AFTER THE FIRST ADVISORY CONSULTATION AFFECTED DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND WHERE THE PER UNIT DEVELOPMENT COSTS STAND AS IS.
THAT LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT CONCLUDES THE, THE LIST OF SPEAKERS.
SO I WILL, I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR.
UH, MR. SMITH, SINCE YOU CAN'T DIAL IN, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CORRESPOND DIRECTLY WITH THE, WITH THE PLANNING BOARD IN WRITING.
UH, WE'LL GET THAT INTO THE FILE.
I'M SORRY THE TECHNOLOGY DIDN'T SERVE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, WITHOUT THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, UH, WE'LL MOVE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT NOW TO BOARD DISCUSSION.
UM, UH, WE'LL START, UH, WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE PROJECT TEAM OR STAFF THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ANSWERED TONIGHT.
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE ALSO IF THE PROPONENTS, UH, ANSWER A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, UH, IN PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT AS WELL.
SO, GOT BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS
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FOR EITHER PROPONENT OR THE STAFF AT THIS POINT.WELL, I HAVE, UH, TWO QUESTIONS AND ONE OF THEM BUILDS ON, UH, ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT WALDEN STREET.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS.
IF YOU WANT 10, 10 FOOT LANES, YOU EITHER GET RID OF A LANE, GET RID OF THE TURN LANE, NOT COMING AT THIS FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M SOMEWHAT ASKING THIS TO THE CITY.
UM, OR YOU DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE, WHICH IS WIDEN THE ROAD, WHICH CREATES A CONDITION WHERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF WALDEN, YOU CANNOT HAVE TREES.
YOU'VE LOST ABOUT FOUR FEET THAT YOU HAVE TODAY.
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THREE OPTIONS.
THE OTHER IS YOU DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
IT KIND OF STINKS AS A DRIVER, BUT YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK.
UM, SO THAT'S MY KINDA MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DID THE STUDY IT, DID THE CITY THINK ABOUT STUDY ALONGSIDE THE PROPONENT, BOTH OF THOSE OPTIONS.
HOW DID YOU LAND AT LET'S MAKE THE ROAD WIDER? AND I ALSO WANNA PUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A DESIGN STRATEGY THAT SAYS WHEN YOU HAVE NARROW SIDEWALKS, ONE OPTION IS YOU NARROW THE ROAD FOR MORE PLANTING SPACE AND THE CITY IS, AND JUST WORKING WITH THE PROPONENT ON THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
SO ASKING THE CITY TO SPEAK TO THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND SOMEWHAT RELATED IS, UM, THE MASS AVE, UM, DESIGN AND STUDY.
WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT? WHEN, WHEN COULD WE ANTICIPATE SEEING THE APPROACH TO THAT LANDSCAPE? OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ANSWERS AS THEY, AS THE QUESTIONS COME UP RATHER THAN SUMMARIZING THEM.
WE DID THAT LAST WEEK SUCCESSFULLY AS THE, UH, PROPONENT WANNA ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS THAT MARY JUST RAISED.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO BEGIN THE ANSWER, BUT I, I ALSO THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CITY AS WELL.
CAN YOU, UH, IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE? SURE.
JASON COB FROM CAPSTONE COMMUNITIES.
I'M THE CO-DEVELOPER WITH SEAN.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AGNOSTIC FOR WHATEVER THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO DO OUT ON WALDEN STREET.
SO I THINK WHETHER THEY GO DOWN TO TWO LANES OR WE GIVE A PORTION OF OUR LAND AND MAKE IT WIDER, THREE LANES, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL FINE WITH US.
I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN SEAN'S MOUTH EITHER, BUT, UM, WE WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY ON THAT.
UH, THE PERSON ONE, THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE IMPEDIMENT IN, IN WALDEN STREET TO POTENTIALLY WIDENING IT, UM, THERE'S A VERY LARGE EVER SOURCE ELECTRICAL CONDUIT THAT RUNS UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK.
UM, WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF STUDIES SHORT OF, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING SHORT OF ACTUALLY DIGGING A TEST PIT OUT THERE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT EVER SOURCE RECORDS, WE'VE DONE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR SURVEYS.
WE THINK THAT WE CAN DO IT BASED ON ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GATHERED.
IF WE DO A TEST PIT, WE'RE HOPE, WHICH WE'RE HOPING TO DO.
WE'VE BEEN IN, WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH DPW FOR THEM TO DO IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFICULT TO DO RIGHT NOW,
UM, BUT THAT'S HOW WE'LL HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
I BELIEVE MARY, THAT ALSO, UM, IMPACTS STREET TREES THOUGH TOO.
AND HOW DEEP, YOU KNOW, IF I, I GUESS MAYBE YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ABOVE GRADE
UM, YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ME, BUT CERTAINLY STREET TREES WHERE THE ROOTS GO BELOW GRADE, I DON'T THINK WORK BECAUSE OF THAT CONDUIT.
SO I'M JUST NOT SURE IN THE CURRENT PLAN THERE IS THE, THERE IS THE WIDTH.
SO, SO DOES THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES, AND I THINK IT REALLY IS MORE FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.
CERTAINLY CITY, UH, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS PRO MAKING IT WIDER FOR THE SAFETY AND THE FUNCTION OF THAT INTERSECTION.
I I'M, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT AND FOR THE RECORD REC ASKING FOR KIND OF THAT UNPACKING FROM THE CITY OF WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THE WIDENING VERSUS EITHER THE REDUCTION OR HOLDING IT AS IS.
'CAUSE EVEN IF YOU COULDN'T GET TREES, IT'S STILL QUITE A NARROW SIDEWALK IN AN AREA THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THIS PULLBACK TOWARDS, UM, RAYMOND PARK SAY.
SO REALLY KIND OF A CITY QUESTION.
UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM TRANSPORTATION HERE, UM, TONIGHT, BUT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND DPW HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE, THE APPLICANT TO, UH, WORK ON, ON THESE THINGS.
I, IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, QUESTION.
UM, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN, CAN FULLY SPEAK TO KIND OF THE PLANNING RATIONALE FOR, UH, WIDENING WALDEN STREET OR, OR NOT WIDENING WALDEN STREET
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AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE TIMELINE ON, UM, THE, THE MASS AVE DESIGN AND, AND HOW THAT'S PROGRESSING.BUT, UM, MAYBE WE CAN, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS AS UH, WE, YOU KNOW, AND THE PROPONENT WORK WITH, UM, WITH DOT AND DPW.
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION THOUGH.
OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? DIEGO? UH, YEAH, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND ONE OF THEM IS SORT OF TWO QUESTIONS IN ITSELF, BUT IT'S LIKE THE SAME CONCEPT, UM, SORT OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, I SEE THE PLANTING ON WALDEN STREET AND IT'S FIVE FEET, AND I'M WONDERING IF, IF THERE'S A CONCERN WITH THAT, IF THAT'S NARROW COMPARED TO LIKE THE EXISTING CONDITION.
YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW BUSY THAT INTERSECTION IS.
YOU HAVE THESE CARS TURNING, GOING INTO THE WALDEN STREET AND THEN SORT OF THE PLANTING PUSHING YOU INTO WALDEN STREET.
UM, AND MAYBE YOU CAN PUT LIKE THE PLANTING ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO LIKE IN BETWEEN THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE STREET OF WALDEN.
AND THEN ON THE SAME KIND OF CONCEPT AS THE PUBLIC COMMENT QUESTION ABOUT THE ALLEYWAY, THAT ACTUALLY HADN'T COME TO MY MIND, UM, ON THE SAFETY OF THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, UM, DEVELOPERS SORT OF ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM SOMETIMES.
AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS THE ROOF SCREEN, UM, YOU SORT OF HAVE THAT RENDERED AS LIKE A WALL AND I'M WONDERING IF MATERIAL FOR THAT HAS BEEN CHOSEN OR IS THAT SORT OF THIS OPAQUE LOOK THAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE, UH, ON THE RENDERINGS THAT I'VE SEEN? THANK YOU.
YOU WHO WANTS TO TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM? UM, SO I, I CAN MAYBE, UH, TRY TWO OF THE THREE OF THOSE.
UM, MAYBE JASON FORNEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE MATERIALITY OF THE SCREEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU BRING UP, UH, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ATTENDEES AS WELL AS THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS TALKED ABOUT THE, THE GAP BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HAD A PINCH POINT PREVIOUSLY AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO, FOR FIRE SAFETY AND THAT THEN YOU PULL A BUILDING BACK AND YOU HAVE A NICE BUFFER FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, BIKES AND THINGS TO BE BROUGHT OUT.
BUT THEN AS YOU, AS YOU IMAGINE NOW YOU HAVE A, A KIND OF A DARK AREA.
UM, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT WE COULD EMPLOY WOULD BE, UM, MOTION SENSOR LIGHTING, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, DARK CORNERS ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AREAS.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME ISSUE, BUT PEOPLE IN PORTER SQUARE COMING DOWN THE AVENUE AND LOOKING FOR PLACES TO CONGREGATE.
SO I DO THINK THAT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME MOTION LIGHTING.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF NOT HAVING WINDOWS ALONG THAT SIDE.
SO IF WE DID HAVE WINDOWS, LIGHTING MIGHT IMPACT PRIVACY.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A BLANK WALL, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGHOUT THE STRETCH OF THAT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME KIND OF SHOEBOX, UM, FOCUSED LIGHTING TO MAKE SURE THAT AREA IS LIT, ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENING TIMES.
UM, AND THEN ON THE CORNER, UM, WITH THE PLANTINGS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE IDEA WAS WHEN WE WERE GIVING SOME LAND, UM, BASED FOR, FOR TO EXPAND, UM, WALDEN STREET, THOSE PLANTINGS ARE ON OUR PROPERTY, UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE HUGGED AGAINST THE WALL.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ONES ARE NOW PUTTING PLANTERS ON CITY PROPERTY, WHICH COULD BE AN OBSTRUCTION.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT, UH, AS JASON FORNEY TALKED ABOUT AT THE CORNER, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE CORNER, THE PLANTER IS ACTUALLY ON THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND WE DID THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT PINCH POINT RIGHT NOW, CARS TURN TO KIND OF HOP THE CORNER.
SO WE DID TRY TO ADD SOME VEGETATION.
THERE WERE NO CURRENTLY STREET TREES ON WALDEN, SO WE TRIED TO SOFTEN THAT EDGE AT THE SAME TIME PULLING BACK THE PLANTERS FROM THE CORNER FOR SOME OF THE SAME REASONS.
UM, BUT THAT IS AN AREA THAT'S NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF GREAT LIGHT.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THE PLANTERS ARE AN ISSUE, THEY'RE MOBILE, SO WE CAN MOVE THOSE.
UM, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN ON, UM, A FEW OF THOSE.
I I CAN GET YOU A DIMENSION OF WHAT THE SIDEWALK IS NOW, UM, BEFORE THE MEETING'S OVER, I DON'T HAVE IT ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A LITTLE BIT NARROWER THAN IT WOULD BE IN THE, UM, FINISHED CONDITION.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ROOF SCREEN MATERIAL, I, I, WE HAVEN'T CHOSEN ONE SPECIFICALLY, BUT I THINK IN MY MIND IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A METAL PANEL OR A PERFORATED METAL SCREEN THAT WOULD KIND OF BE THE SAME TONE AS THE BUILDING AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CHOOSE ALL OF OUR FINAL MATERIALS BASED ON A SERIES OF, OF ONSITE MOCKUPS, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UM, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IN MIND.
UH, DIEGO, DOES THAT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS? YEAH.
SO I HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS WITH THE, THE WOOD ON THE INTERIOR
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AND SLIDE PAGE 32, UH, AS I READ OR LOOK AT THE RENDERING, IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A WOODEN COLUMN JUST SORT OF FLOATING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CORNER UNITS.IS THAT REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO CLEAR? IT DOESN'T SHOW ON A, ANY OF THE, THE, THE DRAWINGS SHOWING THE INTERIOR OF THE UNITS, IT'S JUST IN THE RENDERING.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S WHAT IS REALLY INTENDED.
UH, YOU INDICATED YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR THE, THE, THE WOOD ON THE INTERIOR AND YOU SHOW SOME PICTURES WHERE THERE ARE JUST DEAD SPACES AND, UH, JUST REALLY WONDERING IF THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS, UM, IN, IN KEEPING WITH THE INTERIOR ON THE UNITS.
UM, A A A AS I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE FLOOR PLANS, UH, THERE WILL BE UNITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH ARE BELOW THE HEIGHT OF THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS.
AND SO THERE ARE WINDOWS THERE, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO GET ANY LIGHTER AIR AT ALL? I CAN UNDERSTAND THE UNITS ON BOTH ENDS.
UH, THE, THE SIDES WILL STILL GET LIGHT AND AIR COMING FROM THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE UNITS ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH ARE JUST GOING TO BE FACING A, A BRICK WALL FIVE FEET AWAY.
AND THEN, UH, MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT MAKING FINAL DETERMINATIONS ABOUT THE, THE, THE COLORS, UH, OF ALL THE COMPONENTS.
UH, SO YOU HELPFULLY REFERRED US TO THE BUILDING, I BELIEVE IT'S 6 78 MASS AVE.
UM, UH, I I WILL CONFESS THAT I'M NOT, I I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THE BRICK AND THE SORT OF YELLOWISH BUFF COLOR.
AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE CONSIDERED SOME OTHER COLORS? 6 78.
THE, THE, UH, IS A, A COMBINATION OF SORT OF BUFF TAN AND A DARKER REDDISH BROWN.
AND I WONDERED IF YOU HAD THOUGHT OF SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR HERE, MORE IN THE REDDISH OCHRE, UH, RUSTED, UH, CATEGORIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE, OF THE, THE COLORS YOU'VE CHOSEN, BUT I THINK, UH, SOMETHING TENDING MORE INTO THE RED WOULD, UH, TIE IN MUCH MORE WITH THE BRICK IN THE RUSSELL BUILDING AND WITH THE BRICK IN THE, UH, HENDERSON CARRIAGE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION ONLY, UH, ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
UM, I'LL TAKE THEM IN THE ORDER THAT YOU ASKED THEM.
UH, I THINK ON THE STRUCTURE, UH, WE ARE INDEED LOOKING AT, AT THREE OPTIONS OF MATT OF DEALING WITH MASS TIMBER.
ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE, IT WOULD BE THIS TRADITIONAL POST AND BEAM, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE A, A SMALLISH COLUMN IN THAT CORNER.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE BEFORE IN CORNER UNITS AND IT'S REALLY, UH, I THINK WOULD BE ALL RIGHT.
UM, THE OTHER OPTION IS TO HAVE SMALLER COLUMNS AND A POINT LOADED, UH, SO NO BEAMS, UM, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE COLUMN IN THE CORNER EVEN SMALLER.
AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION IS TO DO BEARING WALLS AND MASS TIMBER.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF THOSE WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH, BUT THEY'RE ALL ON THE TABLE.
SOME OF THEM WOULD HAVE A COLUMN IN THAT CORNER.
UM, BUT I, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL-DESIGNED UNITS THAT DO HAVE EXPOSED COLUMNS IN THE CORNERS, AND I THINK IT'S A TRADE OFF OF HAVING, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE CORNER WINDOW.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE EAST SIDE, UM, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UM, THERE'S ONE, THERE'S ONE APARTMENT THAT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EAST FACADE THAT ONLY HAS WINDOWS FACING THAT DIRECTION AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET, UM, TO THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT I STILL THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SPACE THAT WE, WE HAVE, IT'S SPACE THAT WE'VE INHERITED AND I WOULD STILL CHOOSE TO PUT APARTMENTS THERE RATHER THAN NOT.
UM, THE TWO UNITS ON THE EAST SIDE THAT ARE, UM, ON THE TOP AND BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING ARE NORTH AND SOUTH, HAVE THE BENEFIT OF ALSO HAVING WINDOWS ON THE NORTH AND AND SOUTH FACADE, SO THAT THAT DOES HELP MITIGATE THAT, UM, THAT SITUATION.
AND THEN I THINK, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE UNITS, UM,
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ARE ABOVE THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S A SIX STORY BUILDING, IT HAS VERY TIGHT FLOOR TO FLOORS.AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE COLORS, UM, I THINK, UM, WE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO LOOK AT AT OTHER COLORS.
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THAT TOO.
I THINK THAT OUR, OUR KIND OF INTENTION HERE IS TO, UM, DEPART FROM THE COLORS, THE, THE, THE REDS AND BRICKS THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SORT OF SIGNAL, UM, A MORE, YOU KNOW, CONTEMPORARY LIGHT, AIRY BUILDING.
UM, BUT I, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS ON THE BOARD AND WE WILL, WE WILL CONSIDER THAT, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD AND REALLY GET, GET INTO OUR MATERIALS AND MOCKUPS.
ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW.
I THINK THAT, I THINK THE, THE ALLEYWAY, UH, THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND, AND DIEGO BEGAN TO LOOK AT, UM, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A GATE AT THE MASS AVENUE EDGE, YOU KNOW, TO POTENTIALLY, YEAH.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FORTIFIED OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST TO GIVE A SENSE THAT IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY BACK THERE.
YEAH, I, I THINK WE WOULD DO A, A LOCK GATE THERE.
WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NEXT DOOR BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY TERMINATES YEAH.
SORT OF THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY THROUGH THAT ALLEY.
BUT WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, AND I'M SURE WE COULD FIGURE SOMETHING OUT WITH THEM.
SO YES, I, I DEFINITELY WOULD SEE US PUTTING IN A GATE.
WE PROBABLY, WE NEED IT ON BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? MM-HMM
OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO I, I WANTED TO FOCUS IN ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BRING UP SLIDE 34, BUT IT'S ALSO A POINT THAT WAS RAISED IN THE, OR IT WAS PAGE 34.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ACTUALLY SLIDE 34 IN THE POWERPOINT, BUT, UM, UH, A A POINT THAT WAS RAISED IN THE MEMO AS WELL THAT, UM, AS THE ARCHITECTED ME IS PUZZLED BY, AND IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY THE WAY THAT THE JOINT COMES DOWN AND ADDRESSES, UH, THE GLAZING THERE.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHERE ALL THREE CORNERS, THE TWO BASE STRUCTURES ON MASS AVE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A DETAIL OF MASS AVE HERE AT THE ENTRANCE, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THEN THE GLAZING COME TOGETHER.
AND TO MY EYE, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A BIT OF A CAR CRASH OF ALL OF THE PIECES COMING TOGETHER AT THAT CORNER.
THE PREVIOUS ITERATION, AS I UNDERSTAND, UH, HAD A MORE, UH, RATIONAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE, THE GRIDED STRUCTURE AND THE BASE BELOW.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR IT, UH, MR. FORNEY, BUT, UM, UH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A DETAIL THAT SHOULD, SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AGAIN.
YEAH, I DON'T, THAT'S THE SIGN HIDES IT, THAT THE RENDERING'S CLEVER
UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON.
UM, DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S JUST LIKE EVERYTHING, THERE ARE TRADE OFFS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE TRANSPARENCY ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
PULLING IT BACK IN ALIGNMENT WOULD BE REALLY NICE.
BUT WE, WE DEBATED THAT INTERNALLY AND I THINK WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO SO AS WE DEVELOP THE DESIGN.
AND THANKS TO, UH, E ERIC HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH ON THIS PROJECT, AND I, I KNOW THAT COMMENT CAME FROM HIM AND, UM, WE SORT OF PUSHED AND PULLED A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER, BUT I THINK WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
IF IT WAS, UH, LOUIS SULLIVAN OR HH RICHARDSON, YOU JUST PUT A BIG PIECE OF ORNAMENT THERE AND HIDE THE YEAH.
PIECE OF STAINED GLASS OR SOMETHING.
ANYWAY, SO I, I'M SURE YOU COULD FIGURE THAT OUT.
BUT IT, IT, IT DOES, THE BUILDING IS SO CAREFULLY CONSIDERED ALL THE WAY AROUND.
IT JUST WAS, IT STICKS OUT AS SOMETHING THAT, UH, UM, POTENTIALLY THERE YOU CAN SEE BY THE WAY, WHERE THE GATE MIGHT GO, UH, AS WELL.
WHICH I THINK MAKES SENSE AND COULD ADDRESS THE, THE GOOD CONCERNS RAISED BY THE, BY THE SPEAKER PUBLIC.
WE COULD CONSIDER, CONSIDER CONTINUING THE PUBLIC ART ACROSS THE GATE TOO, WHICH WOULD BE A, A COOL THING MAYBE.
SO MY, MY OTHER LINE OF QUESTIONING REALLY IS SIMPLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF THE DETAIL ON THE, ON THE FACADE.
UM, THE, THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A LOT OF DEPTH, BUT AS I LOOKED AT THE RENDERINGS, IT BECAME CLEAR, YOU KNOW, THE GLASS IS RENDERED CLEAR, MORE OR LESS CLEAR, BUT OF COURSE, UM, THE GLASS WILL APPEAR LIKE THE RUSSELL APARTMENTS DO IN THIS ELEVATION.
THE GLASS WILL APPEAR DARK AND FLAT.
AND SO YOU, THERE, THERE'S GREAT DEPTH IN THE RENDERINGS BECAUSE YOU, YOU SEE THE INSIDES OF THE APARTMENTS.
BUT I, I, I WONDER, I, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING TOO FLAT AND THE 3D MODEL, UH, THAT DIDN'T ASSUAGE THAT CONCERN.
SO I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW MANY INCHES HAVE WE GOT AND HOW FLAT IS IT? LET ME, UM, I'M GONNA LOOK AT SOME DRAWINGS, TOM, AND, AND TALK AND ANSWER
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YOUR QUESTION IN A MINUTE OR TWO.I COULD BE VERY ACCURATE IF I DO THAT.
SO SOME SHADOW, I'M JUST, THIS BOARD MEMBER'S LOOKING FOR SOME SHADOW THERE.
I SAY THE, THIS IS JUST A GRAPHIC.
THE, THE FRAME IS PROUD OF THE, UM, THE, THE GRAY PANELS AND WINDOWS BY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THREE OR FOUR INCHES.
UM, IT MAY NOT BE SHOWING THAT WAY IN THE RENDERINGS.
AND THEN THE, THE, THE, THE WINDOWS AND THE, UM, PANELS ARE IN PLAIN.
SO THERE'S REALLY ONE SHIFT, UM, TO THE, FROM THE FRAME TO THE OTHER THING.
AND THEN THE RECESSES BETWEEN THE FRAMES ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY DEEP.
AND, AND CERTAINLY THE BOTTOM, UH, THE GROUND FLOOR.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT 18 FEET.
UH, THERE'S LOTS OF DEPTH AND SHADOW WHERE, WHERE IT MATTERS THE MOST, RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE CLOSEST TO IT IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, UH, SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, I'M A TREE ADVOCATE, LIKE OTHER, NOT AS ARTICULATE AS OTHER MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD, BUT IT SEEMED THAT THE, UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A WAY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET BIGGER SHADE TREES ON THAT PARKING LOT, ON THE PARKING LOT SIDE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU KNOW THE ALLEY, WHETHER THE, THERE'S POSSIBILITY TO EVEN GET SOME TREES NOT RIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
BUT IS THERE A WAY TO, UH, NOT JUST SAVE THE ONE TREE, BUT TRY TO GET SOMETHING LIVING BACK THERE? SO, UH, SINCE WE'RE STUCK ON WALDEN STREET AS ALREADY BEEN DESCRIBED.
SO I THINK, UH, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS GOT QUESTIONS, LET'S MOVE TO, UH, COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT.
UM, WHO WANTS TO LEAD OFF ASHLEY? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, I, I GUESS FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR THE, UM, PROPONENTS AND THANK YOU FOR CITY STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
I SOMETIMES YOU I'LL, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
SOMETIMES
I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW, UM, EFFECTIVE THESE ARE.
AND THIS IS A VERY ENCOURAGING MEETING TO SEE, UM, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
UH, IN PARTICULAR REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT THE ROOFTOP MECHANICALS ARE PULLED BACK.
THIS BUILDING AT ITS CURRENT STATE MASS STAFF HAS PRETTY LONG SITE LINES AND SO IT'LL BE PRETTY OBVIOUS.
AND SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, UH, WHAT ELSE? MASS TIMBER, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE PROJECT IS STILL BEING PROPOSED AS A, UM, MASS TIMBER HIGH RISE.
AND, UH, I DO LOVE SEEING THE ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION ON, UM, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE IT IS ONE OF THOSE LONG SITE LINE, UM, FACADES RIGHT NOW.
UM, LET'S SEE, UH, ONE, A FEW THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD OR MAYBE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU GUYS, UM, PROGRESS.
ONE THING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING, UH, I, ONE OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, MEMBERS BROUGHT UP, AND WE'VE DISCUSSED A BIT HERE, BUT JUST THE, UM, FIVE FEET, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT ALLEY, BUT A GAP BETWEEN BUILDING AND, UM, RUSSELL APARTMENTS.
MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, DID RU WOULD RUSSELL APARTMENTS ACTUALLY WANNA FENCE BETWEEN, UM, THE BUILDINGS IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE TRASH ROOM AND BIKE ROOM ARE GONNA BE ACCESSIBLE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BETWEEN YOU GUYS AND THEM.
UM, BUT YEAH, ANY WAY OF USING LIGHTING OR GATES OR WHATNOT TO MAKE IT SAFER I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE ANY WAY THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL SHORT TERM BIKE RACKS.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE, UM, AND I KNOW THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON WHAT COMES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, PLANNING OR LAYOUT FOR MASS STAFF, BUT IT IDEALLY THERE COULD BE MORE, ESPECIALLY NEAR THE LOBBY ENTRANCE, UM, FOR GUESTS AND EVEN, UH, RESIDENTS OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN IN JUST A FEW SMALL THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE CAME OUT OF THE, UH, MASS AB ZONING AND PLANNING RECENTLY, AND ONE GOAL OF THE MASS AB ZONING IS TO REALLY ACTIVATE MASS A, UM,
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AND, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THE WAY WE CAN DO IT HERE IS WITH THE COMMUNITY ROOM.AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, IF THE COMMUNITY ROOM ISN'T ALWAYS USED BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE BUILDING, IS THERE A WAY TO, UM, AS A BENEFIT ALMOST THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO RENT THE SPACE, UM, ON, OFF, OFF HOURS? UM, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT AND MAKE, UM, THIS PART OF NASA VERY LIVELY.
UM, AND I THINK ON THE SIMILAR VEIN, JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT ART CAN WE ADD IN THE WINDOWS, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE MURAL BEHIND THE BUS STOP.
SO I THINK THOSE WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY AS WE, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT MASS IN THE LONG TERM.
THANK YOU ASHLEY DIEGO? UM, YEAH, IT'S A SECOND LOT OF THINGS THAT ASHLEY JUST SAID.
UM, I, IT'S, IT'S SO COOL TO SEE A MASS TIMBER BUILDING, ESPECIALLY THIS TALL, UM, AND SO PROMINENT AND, UH, I THINK, I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THE COLOR SCHEME THAT, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING NOW WITH LIKE THE LIGHTER SCHEME COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, UM, IT, IT'S GROWN ON ME.
I, I DID LIKE THE CONTRAST BEFORE OF THE BRICK, BUT I THINK NOW THAT YOU SORT OF, UM, JASON MENTIONED THAT IT'S SORT OF THE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE CONTEXT AROUND IT, UM, MAKES ME LIKE IT EVEN MORE.
UM, I, I DO LIKE THE MURAL ON THE FRONT ON MASS AVE.
I'M HAPPY THAT YOU, THAT YOU PUT THAT THERE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT RECOMMENDATION BY ASHLEY TO, TO EXPAND IT SOME MORE.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY MY FAVORITE PART OF THE BUILDING.
I JUST THINK THAT THE, THE BUILDING IS SO TALL AND, AND SORT OF THIS, UM, WARM COLOR AND THEN YOU GO TO THE STREET LEVEL AND IT'S THIS REALLY VIBRANT, UM, ART SPACE.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.
UM, UH, I THINK THE LAST CONCERN I HAVE IS THE SOUTH FACADE.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S A LITTLE FLAT TO ME.
UM, MAYBE IF YOU COULD ADD A LITTLE DEPTH BETWEEN IT, IT JUST READS AS ONE MASS NOW, WHEREAS BEFORE IT READ AS, UM, SORT OF TWO SEPARATE MASSES, UM, WITH THE HIGHER CONTRAST COLOR SCHEME.
BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
UM, THE, THE ROOF GARDEN LOOKS AWESOME WITH THE AMENITY SPACE.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE GREAT FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
UM, AND THE, UH, BIKE ACCESS WITH THAT LITTLE ALLEY IS, IS GREAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, THERE'S SOME SECURITY CONCERNS.
UM, YEAH, SO SIMILAR TO, UH, MY COLLEAGUES.
UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, I'M REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH CITY STAFF.
BOTH, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND, UH, CDD AND UM, AND THE PLANNING STAFF.
IT'S AWESOME TO SEE THE CHANGES TO THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MURAL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ADDED FENESTRATION ON THE MANAGEMENT OFFICE AND MAIL ROOM AND, UH, MAINTENANCE OFFICE.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE ADDED, BUT THEY'RE GREAT.
UM, I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET RID OF THE SECOND FLOOR BIKE ROOM, SEAN, NICE WORK ON THAT BIKE RACK.
UM, THE, I I LOVE, I LOVE WHAT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, THAT IMPACTED THE DESIGN OF THE ROOFTOP SPACE.
UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING BACK IN FRONT OF US AND FOR CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS.
UH, I, YOU KNOW, PICK UP ON THE SAME, MOST OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY MY COLLEAGUES.
UH, I REALLY LIKE THE PROJECT.
UH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU AND STAFF HAVE DONE AND ESPECIALLY THE, UH, THE WRITTEN WORK YOU GAVE US, WHICH BROKE DOWN EACH QUESTION AND YOUR RESPONSE TO IT AND WHY YOU DID OR DID NOT DO SOMETHING THAT REALLY MADE IT VERY HELPFUL.
UH, IN TERMS OF DESIGN, I THINK THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU MADE HAVE BEEN GREAT.
I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE CHANGE IN THE WINDOWS, UH, AT THE BACK OF THE, THE, THE WESTERN FACADE.
UM, AND I'M VERY GLAD THAT THE, UH, OPEN SPACE ON THE ROOF DID NOT MOVE.
I THINK IT'S GREAT, UH, THAT YOU CAN SEE IT AS YOU TRAVEL UP MASS AVE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY SEEING TREES THERE, I HOPE IT'LL BE GREAT UP AT THE, UP AT THE ROOFTOP.
UM, NO, I, I, I THINK EVERYTHING YOU DID, I, I, YOU KNOW, I AM CONCERNED FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY BE LIVING IN THE APARTMENT THAT HAS, UH, REALLY NO DIRECT VIEW OTHER THAN A BRICK WALL.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M ANXIOUS FOR AS
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MUCH MANY DEPARTMENTS WE CAN GET.AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT ALL ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
BUT, UH, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THOSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE A LESS THAN WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE WITH THEIR, IN THEIR UNITS.
UM, I, I, I'VE ALREADY SAID WHAT I NEED TO SAY ABOUT THE COLOR SCHEME.
I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS NOW AND I CAN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE PREFERRING THAT TO OTHER THINGS.
UH, I JUST THINK A, A, A RICHER COLOR MIGHT BE PREFERABLE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.
BUT I REALLY LIKE THE PROJECT.
I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT AND, UH, I'M REALLY ANXIOUS TO SEE IT BUILT.
UM, AND SO I ECHOING MY COLLEAGUES, I BOTH REALLY LIKE THE PROJECT.
IT'S UM, I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
UM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, I THINK AS ASHLEY DESCRIBED, I THINK WE'RE ALL GETTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S OUR ROLE WHEN WE DO THESE DESIGN REVIEWS THAT ARE, UM, NOT BINDING IN ANY WAY.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW MUCH YOU PAID ATTENTION LAST YEAR AND UM, THE MINOR CHANGES MAKE BIG DIFFERENCES.
AND SO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT RESPONSIVENESS.
I REALLY LIKE THE WAY THAT THE ROOF TERRACE EVOLVED, ESPECIALLY THE RESPONDING TO THE MEETINGS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE THERE.
AND IT VERY MUCH RESONATES WITH ME.
I SOMETIMES JUST WANT A SPACE TO GO AND YOU DON'T WANNA FEEL LIKE YOU NEED A FULL ON PARTY TO BE THERE.
UM, AND IT REALLY FEELS WARM BUT ALSO NOT GRATUITOUS IN THAT, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF HAD A HEAD SCRATCH WHEN I HEARD, OH, THERE'S A PLAY ELEMENT THERE AND IN THE LITTLE HOUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT FEELS DOABLE.
IF IN THE LONG TERM THEY WANNA FLIP IT OUT WITH SOMETHING ELSE, THEY CAN DO THAT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IS COMING ALONG REALLY WELL.
AND I, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE, THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE BUILDING FRAMING IT, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS ON A ROOF IS GONNA BE WIND.
UM, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL MITIGATE SOME OF THAT.
AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR, UH, GROUND DOING THE SECTION.
'CAUSE IT ALSO VALIDATES OKAY, YOU GUYS HAVE SOIL DEPTH TO GET SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO WHAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING.
UM, MOST OF MY CONCERNS REMAIN REALLY AT THE GROUND.
UM, AND IN SOME WAYS THEY'RE NOT AS MUCH THE PURVIEW OF THIS APPLICANT AS THEY ARE.
I THINK THE CITY REFLECTING ON THE MASS AVE PLAN, WHAT, WHAT'S THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? WE KNOW THAT ACROSS THE STREET, THIS WHOLE ZONE IS WITHIN ONE OF THE SHADE PRIORITY AREAS FOR THE MASS AVE STUDY.
UM, ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S A REAL PRIORITY 'CAUSE THERE ARE NO STREET TREES IN FRONT OF THAT CARRIAGE BUILDING.
YOU GUYS CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT YOUR BUILDING'S GONNA LOOK A LOT BETTER IF THERE'S SOME STREET TREES, UH, IN THE VICINITY.
UM, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT AS THE CITY EXPLORES THAT THEY GET SOMEONE THE VERY BROAD SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THE BUS STOP.
UM, ON THE WALDEN STREET SIDE, I DO THINK JUST A FOLLOW UP OF WHAT WAS THE TRANS, WHAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION RATIONALE FOR WIDENING IT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT BASED ON THE CITY'S OBJECTIVES TO BE PRIORITIZING PEDESTRIANS, UM, TREES, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, I THINK IT'S JUST ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
IF THERE'S JUST A FUNDAMENTAL, IT ABSOLUTELY HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA TO DO THIS AND THIS IS ENACTING IT.
I LOOKED AT THAT DUCK BANK, IT'S ABOUT DEAD CENTER ON THE CURRENT SIDEWALK AND THE DUCK BANK HAS TO BE, OR THE TREE HAS TO BE THREE FEET FROM IT THOUGH, THE TREE.
WELL, SO IF YOU GOT RID OF A LANE INSTEAD OF WIDENING THE LANES, YOU COULD PROBABLY GET YOUR STREET TREES, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR DOWN THAT LENGTH EVEN AT 30 FEET.
UM, I THINK EVEN THAT LITTLE URBAN DESIGN MOVE OF, WHEN YOU NOTCH A STREET LIKE THAT TO WIDEN IT OUT FOR THE SECOND TURN LANE, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING FROM SOMEONE ON MASS AVE, YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN THAT STREET.
IT'S A PEDESTRIAN, IT'S A VEHICULAR PRIORITY, RIGHT? WHEREAS IT LOOKS GREAT WHEN YOU LOOK DEAD DOWN THE SIDEWALK IN THAT CURB LINE, IT'S SAYING, PEDESTRIAN, YOU COME HERE, RAYMOND PARK DOWN THROUGH HERE, COME ALONG.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT TIES MORE EFFECTIVELY TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD YOU'RE TRYING TO TIE TO.
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THAT PARKING LOT IN BETWEEN RIGHT NOW, BUT IT CREATES THIS MOMENT OF, WELL THEN YOU HAVE THE JOG IN THE PARKING LOT.
SO IT'S REALLY URGING THE CITY TO MAYBE FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH THIS GROUP AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHY THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.
AND A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WILL SAY, GREAT, I HATE THAT INTERSECTION WHEN I'M IN A CAR.
UM, BUT KIND OF RETHINKING IT TOWARDS THE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLIST, LIKE CONVI, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COM COMPEL THAT STORY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, I WAS ALSO THINKING DIEGO, A BIT LIKE YOU, LIKE MAYBE THE PLANTERS ON THE CURB SIDE.
IT'S ALWAYS TRICKY WITH LIKE STORM WATER AND IRRIGATION IS GONNA BE EASIER STRAIGHT FROM THE BUILDING.
BUT I WOULD SAY WHEN I LOOK AT RENDERING 36 ON PAGE 36, UM, WHATEVER YOU PLANT THERE, A IT'S
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PROBABLY NOT GRASSES.'CAUSE IF IT DOESN'T GET GOOD, GREAT LIGHT, MAKE SURE IT'S KIND OF LIKE ROBUST AND SCALED TO THE BUILDING.
AND I KNOW GROUND WILL GET THERE.
UM, IN TERMS OF, I'M SURE THEY HAVEN'T DONE A LOT OF THE PLANTING DESIGN DOWN ON THE GROUND, BUT WHEN I SEE THE LOWER STUFF, IT FEELS TO ME LIKE IT'S GONNA END UP BEING A MULCH BED THAT NO ONE'S DOING ANYTHING WITH.
AND ON THE TREES ON THE BACK AND THE THAT RENDERING AS WELL, THEY'RE KINDA LIKE TWO TYPES OF TREES AND THEY LOOK A LITTLE BIT WIMPY AGAIN.
AND I FEEL LIKE PROBABLY WITH THE, UM, THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING, AND I THINK AS DIEGO IS DESCRIBING, THAT BACK FACADE IS TRICKY ANYWAY.
YOU PROBABLY WANT SOMETHING MORE, UM, STRONGER IN FORM, UPRIGHT AND MORE, UH, UNIFORM, RIGHT? YOU ONLY HAVE SIX, SO THIS IS NOT THE PLACE YOU NEED TO BUILD YOUR BIODIVERSITY.
JUST MAKE IT LIKE A SINGLE GESTURE TO CREATE THAT KIND OF BARRIER OR NOT BARRIER, LET'S NOT CALL IT BARRIER, BUT THAT KIND OF TRANSITION TO THAT PARKING LOT, WHICH PROBABLY WILL EVOLVE OVER TIME.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD SPEAK BETTER AT THE BASE OF THAT BUILDING WHERE YOU'RE ALSO KIND OF CONCEALING, UM, A BLANK WALL DOWN AT THAT EDGE.
AND PROBABLY YOU COULD DO GRASS, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M SURE GROUND WILL WILL KINDA LOOK AND DO WHAT THEY CAN WITH THAT.
AND, AND SO AGAIN, IT'S, I REALLY LIKE THE BUILDING AND WE JUST URGE THAT THE CITY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND ALSO WORK ON OUR, ALL OF OUR STREET SCAPES TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS GREAT AND ALIGNED WITH THE VISION FROM THE MASS AVE PLANNING STUDY BOTH ON MASS AVE AND ON WALDEN.
I KNEW I COULD COUNT ON SOMEBODY TO TALK ABOUT TREES IN A MUCH MORE ARTICULATE WAY THAN I
AND TO THINK THAT THEY WOULD GO TO JUST ONE LANE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO EITHER LEFT OR RIGHT, WOULD JUST CAUSE NEAR CHAOS FOR DRIVERS IN NORTH CAMBRIDGE AND JORAN VILLAGE AND THROUGH THE WHOLE SECTION OF CAMBRIDGE.
UM, I, I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAPPEN
ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, I I LOVE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE A DEBATE TONIGHT AND, UH, IT'S, WE'RE WRESTLING WITH BIKES VERSUS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND, UM, TONIGHT THE, UH, WE'VE GOT AN EXTRA UNIT AND WE WERE ABLE TO STILL ACCOMMODATE THE BIKES AND, UH, WHAT A GREAT KIND OF DISCUSSION AND GREAT KIND OF DESIGN PROBLEM TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF AND APPRECIATE THAT THE WAY THAT IT'S COME OUT SO THAT WE ADDED A UNIT, UM, MASS TIMBER.
I AGREE WITH DIEGO, REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE THE TALL MASS TIMBER BUILDING.
WELL, WHY IS IT EXCITING? YES, IT SEQUESTERS CARBON, BUT THAT'S RATHER ABSTRACT, BUT IMPORTANT.
THE INTERIOR RENDERINGS, UH, ARE HUMANE, RIGHT?
AND TO TED'S COMMENT AND CONCERN ABOUT THE UNITS THAT HAVE NO LIGHT, YES, IT'S A NEW YORK CITY CONDITION PROBABLY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, INSIDE THAT UNIT YOU'VE GOT WOOD CEILINGS AND MAYBE WOOD COLUMNS.
UM, SO WE'RE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO TRY TO MAKE A BUILDING THAT, UH, TO SOME DEGREE HAS SOME, SOME HUMANITY IN TERMS OF ITS DETAIL.
AND I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ASPECT OF THAT STRUCTURAL, UH, DECISION THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT GROUP HAS MADE TOGETHER.
SO I WOULD, IF IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO LONG AT THE END OF THIS, I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VARIANCE WAS ALL ABOUT AND, UH, YOUR, YOUR, UM, DOGGEDNESS TO, UH, TO, UH, TO BUILD THE BUILDING, UH, OUTTA THAT SYSTEM.
I, UM, DID NOT COMMENT ABOUT COLOR IN QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT A QUESTION I AGREE WITH TED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, WHY ARCHITECTS ARE AFRAID OF COLOR.
I UNDERSTAND THE BEIGE AND THE PALETTE AND THE COOLNESS OF, OF THE WHOLE THING.
BUT, UM, GOSH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE, EVEN THE MURAL IS RENDERED IN KIND OF PASTEL COLORS AND, UH, COULDN'T WE PAINT THE MILLIONS ORANGE OR SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I'M A CHILD OF
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THE SIXTIES AND, UM, A SPLASH OF COLOR WOULD GO A LONG WAY.IT WOULD BE GREAT TO RATHER THAN GRAY.
UM, IT'S NOT A BANK, IT'S WHERE PEOPLE LIVE.
I WONDER IF WE COULD, UM, LOOK AT MAYBE ANOTHER, ANOTHER COLOR.
UM, AND CERTAINLY BRICK IS, UH, AN INSPIRATION, UH, WITH WHAT'S THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST, UM, PLANNING BOARD HEARING.
AND I WAS ON THE ZONING BOARD 10 YEARS BEFORE THE 14 YEARS HERE WHERE WE'RE, UH, DOING DESIGN REVIEW FOR A PLAYHOUSE.
AND, UM, I ALSO THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL, UM, BE BECAUSE OF THE VALUES THAT THAT, UH, UH, SAYS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO ABOUT THE PROPONENTS CARE ABOUT THE SPACES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WILL LIVE HERE.
UM, OF COURSE I'D WANT MORE PLAYHOUSES, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S START WITH THIS.
IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT MULTI-GENERATIONS WILL BE INHABITING THIS PLACE.
IT IS FAMILY HOUSING, UM, AND WHAT A WONDERFUL THING THAT, THAT THING'S UP, 12 STORIES IN THE AIR, UH, A BIT OF A TEMPLE.
I TOO, UH, LIKE THE BUILDING AND I LIKE, UM, THE CARE THAT YOU'VE TAKEN WITH IT AND, UM, I I WILL SAY WHAT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAID, UH, THE FACT THAT YOU, UH, LISTENED CAREFULLY BOTH TO STAFF AND TO THE PLANNING BOARD, AND THEN ORGANIZE THOSE THOUGHTS, UM, BOTH IN THE WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING AND ALSO TONIGHT IN TERMS OF THE WAY YOU PRESENTED IN A VERY RESPECTFUL WAY, EVEN WHEN YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT WE WERE HOPING YOU WERE GONNA DO, UM, I THINK GOES A LONG WAY TO EARNING CREDIBILITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND CERTAINLY, UM, ARE SHOWING RESPECT FOR THIS PROCESS.
AND, UH, AS CHAIR, I JUST HAVE TO SINGLE THAT OUT AS, UH, BEING A REALLY LAUDABLE WAY TO PROCEED.
SO, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH THE CARE YOU'VE TAKEN WITH THE PROCESS.
I'M SURE IT'S FRUSTRATING AT TIMES.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION, UH, TO CONCLUDE THE DESIGN CONSULTANT CONSULTATION AND SUBMIT A FINAL REPORT WITH OUR COMMENTS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OF BUILDINGS IN SUPPORT OF THE, UH, BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
DO I NEED A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? MRS. TED? SO MOVED.
UM, EVAN, WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THAT MOTION, PLEASE.
UH, SO THIS CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM STAFF? NONE INDICATING ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? IF NOT, WE WILL ADJOURN.