* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] GOOD [NOTE] EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 10TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE CAMBRIDGE PLANNING BOARD. MY NAME IS TOM VIC, AND I AM THE CHAIR PURSUANT TO CHAPTER TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025, ADOPTED BY THE MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL COURT AND APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR, THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED TO USE REMOTE PARTICIPATION AT MEETINGS AT THE CAMBRIDGE PLANNING BOARD. ALL BOARD MEMBERS, APPLICANTS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL STATE THEIR NAME BEFORE SPEAKING, AND ALL VOTES WILL BE TAKEN BY ROLL CALL. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE KEPT ON MUTE UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL GIVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT TIME, AND YOU CAN ALSO FIND INSTRUCTIONS ON THE CITY'S WEBPAGE FOR REMOTE PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS. THIS MEETING IS BEING VIDEO AND AUDIO-RECORDED AND IS BEING STREAMED LIVE ON THE CITY OF CAMBRIDGE ONLINE MEETING PORTAL AND ON CABLE TELEVISION CHANNEL 22 WITHIN CAMBRIDGE. THERE WILL ALSO BE A TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDINGS. I'LL START BY ASKING STAFF TO TAKE BOARD MEMBER ATTENDANCE AND VERIFY THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE AUDIBLE. H THEODORE COHEN, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? PRESENT VISIBLE AUDIBLE. THANK YOU. UH, MARY FLYNN, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? MARY IS ABSENT. MARY ECKER, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? MARY ECKER IS ALSO ABSENT. DIEGO MACIAS, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? PRESENT, VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE. ASHLEY TAN, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? PRESENT, VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE? CAROLYN ZERN, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? PRESENT, VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE. THANK YOU FOR THE ASSOCIATE MEMBERS. DAN ANDERSON, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? I, EVAN, YES. YES AND YES. THANK YOU. UH, JOY JACKSON, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? JOY IS ABSENT. AND, UH, THE CHAIR, MVI, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND IS THE MEETING VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE TO YOU? PRESENT, VISIBLE AND AUDIBLE. THANK YOU, EVAN. THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM IS AN UPDATE FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE ANY STAFF THAT IS PRESENT AT THE MEETING. THANK YOU. UM, HI EVERYONE. EVANS PETRINI. I'M THE SENIOR MANAGER FOR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT. I'M DOING MY BEST TO FILL IN FOR JEFF THIS EVENING. UM, WITH ME, UH, FROM THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION AT CDD, WE HAVE SWATI JOSEPH. UM, AND FROM OUR URBAN DESIGN TEAM, WE HAVE ERIC THOR, GOLDSON, AND I THINK THAT'S EVERYONE FROM CITY STAFF. JEN, IS HE HERE? OH, JEN, KYRA. UM, UH, JEN IS HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. UM, THANKS SWATHI. UM, SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE ONE GENERAL BUSINESS ITEM, A PLANNING BOARD ADVISORY CONSULTATION. UM, I'LL, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM. UM, LOOKING AHEAD NEXT WEEK, UH, IS A WEEK OFF, UH, THE FOLLOWING WEEK, FEBRUARY 24TH. UH, WE HAVE A-A-P-U-D PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCE, UM, WITH HEALTH PEAK TO TALK ABOUT THEIR, UH, PROPOSAL IN ALEWIFE. UH, THE WEEK AFTER THAT, MARCH 3RD, WE HAVE THE, THE SECOND OF TWO ADVISORY CONSULTATIONS FOR THE 2072 MASS AVE, A HO PROJECT. UM, AND THEN THE WEEK AFTER THAT, ON MARCH 10TH, WE, UH, ARE STILL CONFIRMING THE AGENDA, BUT WE DO EXPECT TO HAVE A MEETING. WE, UH, EXPECT TO HAVE, UH, POSSIBLY A, A COUPLE MORE A HO PROJECTS ON THAT EVENING. SO NEXT WEEK IS OFF, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THREE WEEKS, UM, OF, UH, OF, OF MEETINGS AND, AND PROJECTS TO TALK ABOUT. SO I WILL, I'LL STOP THERE AND I'LL PASS IT BACK TO THE CHAIR. GREAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE MATTERS, UH, FOR EVAN BY BOARD MEMBERS? ALRIGHT. AND I DON'T SEE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS POSED OR HANDS RAISED. UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AN ADVISORY CONSULTATION OF CASE PBAC DASH TWO AT 1740 MASSACHUSETTS [00:05:01] AVENUE. A MIXED USE PROJECT PROPOSED BY ADAM SIEGEL TO CONSTRUCT A SIX STORY BUILDING TO CREATE 71 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 75 LONG-TERM AND 13 SHORT-TERM BICYCLE PARKING SPACES, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THE BASEMENT AND FIRST FLOOR WITH A GROSS FLOOR AREA OF 64,349 SQUARE FEET. UH, WE WILL BEGIN WITH A CDD STAFF. UM, UPDATE, UH, OR OVERVIEW EXPLAINING WHY THIS IS BEFORE US, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEVELOPER FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THE BOARD WILL THEN ASK QUESTIONS AND DISCUSS THE PROPOSED DESIGN. EVAN, THANK YOU. UM, SO THIS IS THE FIRST NON A HO PROJECT TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD ADVISORY CONSULTATION PROCESS. UM, AS THE BOARD, UH, MIGHT RECALL THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED, UH, A YEAR AGO TODAY ACTUALLY, UM, EXPANDED THE USE OF, OF THIS KIND OF ADVISORY REVIEW. THE ONE THAT THE BOARD IS USED TO, UM, USING WITH, WITH THE A HO PROJECTS. UM, NOW THAT SAME PROCESS APPLIES TO, UH, MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS BETWEEN 50 AND 75,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, SO THIS IS THE, THE FIRST KIND OF NON A HO PROJECT THAT'S GOING THROUGH THAT TWO, UH, PLANNING BOARD SESSION REVIEW PROCESS. UH, THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST PROJECT THAT THE BOARD WILL REVIEW UNDER THE NEW MASS A ZONING, WHICH, UH, WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK, UH, IN DECEMBER. THE BOARD, UH, HAD A, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ZONING CHANGES BACK IN OCTOBER. UM, SO THIS IS, UH, A COUPLE FIRSTS FOR, FOR THIS ONE. UM, AND, AND THIS MEETING IS, IS THE FIRST OF, OF THE TWO REQUIRED SESSIONS. SO, UH, AS, AS A REMINDER AS IT IS WITH A HO PROJECTS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS DESIGN REVIEW IS NOT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO GRANT OR DENY A PERMIT, BUT TO PROVIDE ADVISORY COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN AND ITS OVERALL CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S URBAN DESIGN OBJECTIVES AND GUIDELINES, UH, WHICH WE'VE PROVIDED AND SUMMARIZED IN MEMOS FROM CDD AND DPW. UH, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL ISSUE AN INITIAL REPORT ON THE PROPOSAL AND THE DEVELOPER WILL RETURN TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A SECOND ADVISORY DESIGN REVIEW SESSION WITH AN UPDATED DESIGN THAT IS RESPONSIVE TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS RECEIVED PRIOR TO AND UP THROUGH TONIGHT'S HEARING. THANKS. THANK YOU, EVAN. UM, THE PRESENTER IS ADAM SIEGEL. SO YOU WILL HAVE 30 MINUTES FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, THOUGH WE HOPE YOU CAN BE AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE WITH TONIGHT. PLEASE, IF YOU WILL, UH, INTRODUCE, UH, YOUR PROJECT TEAM AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M ADAM SIEGEL WITH OLD NORTH DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH MY PARTNER BRENDAN SEAVER, ALONG WITH OUR ARCHITECT PETER QUINN, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT KAIA PODO AND CIVIL ENGINEER CAMERON CAMPBELL. WE'RE EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS NEW 71 UNIT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE PUT A GREAT DEAL OF THOUGHT INTO. WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT BY INCREASING HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES NEAR TRANSIT, WHILE ALSO STRENGTHENING THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL FABRIC ALONG MASS AVE. OUR PROPOSAL INCLUDES GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY FIVE TO SIX TENANTS. IT IS DESIGNED TO BE PASSIVE HOUSE COMPLIANT, ALL ELECTRIC BUILDING THAT WILL GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY THROUGH A ROOFTOP SOLAR ARRAY. THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO BOTH PORTER SQUARE AND HARVARD SQUARE, PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE RED LINE AND COMMUTER RAIL SERVICE. IN ADDITION, 3M BTA BUS LINES STOP DIRECTLY OUTSIDE THE BUILDING ON MASS AVE IN AN AREA THE CITY IS PLANNING TO CONS RECONSTRUCT TO HELP ALLEVIATE SIDEWALK CONGESTION. THE PROJECT PROVIDES SECURE BIKE PARKING FOR 76 BICYCLES, ALONG WITH A DEDICATED LOADING BAY FOR TRASH REMOVAL AND RESIDENT MOVING. WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME SO FAR SOLICITING FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS HOLDING THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HAS PROVIDED COMMENTS SO FAR. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS TONIGHT AND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF AND OUR NEIGHBORS TO SHAPE A PROJECT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO PETER QUINN AND HE CAN WALK THROUGH THE DESIGN AND I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN TO ASSIST HIM. HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS. YEAH. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS PETER QUINN, UH, PETER QUINN ARCHITECTS, UH, WE'RE [00:10:01] LOCATED AT 2 5 9 ELM STREET IN, UH, DAVIS SQUARE. UM, SO I'LL JUST, UH, DIVE RIGHT IN HERE. WE ALREADY HAVE DISCUSSED THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING WITH 71 UNITS, UM, AND 64 PLUS THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IS JUST UNDER 70 FEET. UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ADAM. UH, THE CONTEXT OF THIS, UH, PERHAPS EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ORIENTED PROPERLY. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SCREEN HERE, IT IS SOMEWHAT OF A TRAPEZOIDAL SITE. UH, THE PRONOUNCED CORNER AT LINEAN AND MASS AVE, UH, IS AN INTERESTING, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR A DESIGN FEATURE. UM, MANY OF THE BUILDINGS AROUND THIS SITE, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE, ARE FIVE AND SIX STORY ALREADY AS WELL AS, UM, VERY SIGNIFICANT, UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, UM, IN THE LINEAN AND OPPOSITE THE EXTRA EXIT PARK, UH, AREA ACROSS THE MASS APP. UH, NEXT SLIDE. THIS ONE GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE, UM, IF YOU COULD BLOW THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. UM, THE DISTANCE FROM OUR SITE TO PORTER SQUARE IS ABOUT, UM, I THINK WE MEASURED 1500 SQUARE FEET, UM, THREE BLOCKS BASICALLY TO THE T STOP, AND THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE COMMUTER RAIL IS, OF COURSE, AND THERE'S THREE BUS LINES, ALL OF WHICH, UM, STOP RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING OR WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A FEW FEET. UM, NEXT SLIDE. YEAH, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD, WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT MASS A IS KIND OF A MIX OF THESE ONE STORY RETAIL, UM, BUILDINGS, MANY OF WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, 80, 90 YEARS OLD, AND, UH, THEN TALLER FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE. SO THE, THIS IS OUR SITE. THE TOP LEFT IS THE VIEW ACROSS MASS AVE AT THE BUILDING ITSELF. UM, MANY PEOPLE KNOW THIS SITE FOR THE, UM, CAFE ON THE LEFT. AND THEN, UH, TEASER'S HAS AN ENTRY IN THE CENTER THAT GOES DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT. IT USED TO BE, UM, I THINK IT'S CALLED HOLLYWOOD VIDEO. UM, AND, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A DRUG STORE AT THE CORNER, WHICH IS WELL KNOWN AS WELL. UM, THAT'S A, UH, UM, THE WALMART DO, I MEAN, SORRY, UH, WALGREENS. AND THEN, UM, THERE'S, UH, A FEW OTHER SHOPS, UH, AS WELL IN BETWEEN, UM, LET'S SEE, YOU SEE THE SIDE VIEW HERE ON THE LOWER RIGHT, THIS IS, UH, THE FAMOUS PARKING SPACE, UM, WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, BUMPED BY OTHER CARS BECAUSE IT'S WAY TOO SMALL AND KIND OF DANGEROUS TO BACK OUT. BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S SERVED THE DRUG STORE FOR MANY YEARS. UM, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST, UH, SOME GROUPINGS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE BLUE ARROWS IN THE, IN THE, UH, LOCUS PLAN. THE LOWER RIGHT WHERE THESE ARE TAKEN, MOST OF THESE ARE FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS. THERE ARE A FEW FOUR OR FOUR AND A HALF STORIES, UH, VERY, UM, COMMON, UH, VARIETY OF BRICK BUILDINGS WITH CORNICES. UH, SOME WITH A, UM, ATTIC LEVEL, UH, A LOT OF PRONOUNCED PARAPETS YOU'LL SEE. UM, AND THEN RIGHT AGAINST THEM ARE THESE ONE STORY RETAIL BUILDINGS OR SOME, UH, SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE GIVES YOU A FEW MORE. ALL OF THESE ARE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE BLOCKS OF OUR SITE, UH, INCLUDING THIS ONE, THIS FIVE STORY BUILDING AT, UH, 60 AND 63 IN THE UPPER RIGHT, UM, MASS APP THAT WAS BUILT, UH, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, I THINK. UM, AND NOT MUCH HAS BEEN BUILT SINCE THEN IN THIS MASS AVE AREA. UH, A LITTLE SMALLER FOUR STORY ONES, SO THAT I THINK THE ZONING INHIBITED, UH, ANY KIND OF BUILDINGS THAT MATCHED THESE HEIGHTS AND DENSITY UNTIL NOW. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN FINALLY WE GET TO, UM, SOME BUILDINGS ON LINEAN STREET. YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE ALL MONUMENTAL SIZE. SOME OF THEM ARE MONUMENTAL SIZE, UM, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, OTHERS ARE, ARE MORE DOMESTIC SCALE. AND MIXED IN WITH THAT ARE FOUR AND FIVE STORY, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS AS WELL, SOME OF WHICH HAVE A COURTYARD SUCH AS THIS 16 AND 17 LINEAN STREET, REALLY WINE BUILDING. UM, NEXT SLIDE. SO JUST TO GET INTO THE, UH, THE KIND OF CONCEPT OF THE BUILDING AND [00:15:01] HOW IT'S LAID OUT, UH, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU HAVE MASS AVE, AND ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE AT AN ANGLE IS ION STREET. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS, UM, WE'VE CREATED, UH, ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE, UM, UH, FACING, UH, MASS AVE AND WRAPPING AROUND A CORNER ON LINEAN STREET. SO WE HAVE, WE, UM, ANTICIPATED A FEW DIFFERENT SIZES FOR THESE COMMERCIAL USERS. YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT WAYS WE, WE COULD USE IT. WE'D LIKE TO SEE A LARGE TENANT OF THE CORNER, SO SMALLER TENANTS IN BETWEEN MUCH LIKE IT IS NOW, AND THEN POSSIBLY THE CAFE AT THE LOWER END OF THE SITE, WHICH IS, UM, APPROXIMATELY WHERE IT IS NOW AS WELL. SIMON'S IS THE NAME OF THAT PLACE, IF YOU ALL KNOW IT. UM, IN, IN THE CENTER OF THIS, THERE'S AN ENTRY THAT HAS A, UM, UH, A LIFT AND A STAIRWAY GOING DOWN TO WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE TEASERS. UM, THEY'VE SUCCESSFULLY, UH, BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A RETAIL STORE DOWN THERE AND THEY KNOW THE OWNERS AND TALK TO THEM TO, TO STAY OR TO COME BACK, I SHOULD SAY. UM, SO THAT, UH, THAT COMMERCIAL LOBBY IS, UM, IS PRIMARILY FOR THEM, BUT IT COULD BE DIVIDED UP DOWNSTAIRS DIFFERENTLY, SO IT WOULD BE SHARED IN THAT CASE. AND THEN, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR. I THINK I HAVE TO BE, ADAM, DO YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME A CURSOR? UM, IF WE WRAP AROUND THE CORNER HERE, UM, WE, UH, WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRY. WE RIGHT OFF LINEAN STREET. IT'S A POINT IN WHICH THE BUILDING HAS STEPPED BACK, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE 3D MODEL, HOW WE HAVE STEPPED THIS BUILDING BACK, UM, FIRST AT THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEN EVEN AT THE UPPER FLOORS AS WELL. UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE ZONING THAT, UH, UM, THE BUILDING BE STEPPED BACK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEET, UM, IF IT ABUTS A RESIDENTIAL ZONE THAT'S STILL IN THERE, THAT'S ONLY, UH, REQUIREMENT. SO, UH, WE'VE TAKEN THAT, UM, INTO CONSIDERATION DOING THIS. I THINK WE ACTUALLY WOULD SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, BUT ONCE YOU COME IN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL LOBBY, MAIL ROOM, UM, PACKAGE ROOM, UH, TO, TO ELEVATORS. AND, UH, WITH 71 UNITS, WE ARE PLANNING ON TWO ELEVATORS. AND THEN OFF OF THAT IS A TRASH ROOM. THIS LEADS INTO THE RESIDENTIAL LOADING ON THE FAR LEFT. UM, THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTIAL USERS, UH, FOR MOVING, AS ADAM SAID, AS WELL AS FOR TRASH PICKUP. UH, AND THEN IN THE BACK LOWER LEFT CORNER, YOU'LL SEE A YELLOW AREA THAT'S OUR COLOR FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS. UH, WE HAVE A LARGE, UM, THREE BEDROOM DOWN HERE, UM, THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON. YOU KNOW, THE PLANS FOR, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SITE HAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS HERE. IN THE LOWER PART OF THE PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT SAYS C ONE DISTRICT, AND THEN THERE'S KIND OF AN ANGLED LINE THAT ACTUALLY IS THE A HUNDRED FOOT LINE BACK FROM MASS APP PROPERTY LINE. AND SO EVERYTHING TO THE RIGHT OF THAT LINE IS THE NEW MAS 12 A DISTRICT. UM, AND NO, WE DON'T HAVE 12 STORIES. UH, WE'RE KEEPING IT TO SIX. UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE ON THE SITE. UM, IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE, WE HAVE AN UNDERGROUND, UH, TRANSFORMER WITH A MANHOLE IN THE UPPER LEFT OF OUR SITE. UM, AND, UH, BY THE WAY, WE ARE OUT OF THE, UM, LONG TERM FLOOD ELEVATION AS WELL AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE HUNDRED YEAR AND 10 YEAR FLOODS. UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME BIKE RACKS FOR SHORT TERM NEAR THE FRONT DOOR. UH, WE'VE HEARD A SUGGESTION FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE THAT, SO WE'RE TAKING THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS IN THIS WHOLE, UM, AREA HERE TO, TO FIT IN. UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO, AND, AND KATYA, UH, FROM VERDANT, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WILL SPEAK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, IS TO CREATE SOME SPACE OUTSIDE THE DOOR HERE WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME TABLES, SORT OF A FRONT PORCH, IF YOU WILL, FOR, FOR THE BUILDING WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME TABLES AND CHAIRS AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING FOR RESIDENTS COULD BE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. UM, WE ALSO HAVE PULLED THE BUILDING BACK AT THE CORNER IN ORDER TO CREATE A, UM, KIND OF A, WELL, NOT ONLY, UH, HIGH LEVEL CLEARANCES, UH, ACROSS THE CORNER, BUT ALSO TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A SPACE FOR THAT MAJOR RETAIL ENTRY, UM, AT THIS LOCATION. UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. SO THIS IS THE BASEMENT LEVEL. [00:20:01] UM, ODDLY ENOUGH, MOST OF THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE BECAUSE THERE IS A GOOD SIZED BASEMENT DOWN THERE. WE HOPE TO PRESERVE A LOT OF IT. UM, THIS IS A, UM, A LARGE COMMERCIAL SPACE RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC RESTROOMS DOWN HERE. AND OF COURSE, WE'LL PUT RESTROOMS IN THE OTHER SPACES ONCE WE KNOW WHO THE TENANTS ARE GONNA BE UPSTAIRS. UM, BUT THIS, THIS WILL SERVE, UM, UH, THE SMALL TENANTS IN THE LIGHT AS WELL AS FOR THE GROUND FLOOR AND, UM, UH, THE STAIRWAY COMING DOWN, PLUS THE LIFT. AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, UM, THE, AT THIS POINT, JUST A LARGE COMMERCIAL SPACE. THIS IS ABOUT 42, 4300 SQUARE FEET. UM, ALSO DOWN HERE WE HAVE A VERY LARGE BIKE ROOM AND HAVE A, UM, BIKE, UH, STORAGE FOR BOTH REGULAR BIKES AND CARGO BITES AND, UM, NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS. I THINK WE HAVE A A PLACE FOR REPAIRING BIKES AS WELL. SHARE WAS ON PREVIOUS PLANS, THOUGH, MAKE SURE THEY CAN, IT GETS BACK IN THERE. UH, WE ALSO HAVE A, UM, AN AMENITY GYM FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, RIGHT FLOOR RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE OTHER THERE OPENS. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN HERE, ELECTRICAL ROOMS AND WATER, AND SPREAD THAT ROOM AS WELL. FORTUNATELY, UM, THE, THE SITE IS WELL SERVED BY UTILITIES. UH, THERE'S A LARGE MANHOLE JUST OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, BELOW GRADE THAT WE CAN USE TO FEED OUR TRANSFORMER. WE THINK, UH, BASED ON SOME PRELIMINARY COMPETITIONS WE'VE HAD WITH EVERSOURCE. UH, OF COURSE WITH EVERSOURCE, EVERYTHING IS PRELIMINARY UNTIL IT'S DONE. UM, BUT THAT, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW WITH THAT ONE. NEXT PAGE PLEASE. SO THIS, I'M JUST TRYING TO SHOW OUR BASIC ORGANIZATION FOR OUR UPPER FLOORS. WE HAVE KIND OF A U-SHAPED CORRIDOR PLAN, UH, WITH, UM, THE, THE UNITS, UM, UH, RADIATING OFF OF THAT. SO MOST OF OUR UNITS ARE, UM, STUDIOS AND UH, THEN WE HAVE THE CORNERS, WE HAVE THE LARGER UNITS. SOME OF THESE WILL BE TWO AND SOME WILL BE THREE BEDROOMS. WE HAVE QUITE A, QUITE A VARIETY OF, OF DIFFERENT SIZES, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE, UH, PROBABLY, UH, A MAJORITY OF THESE OF OUR UNITS ARE, ARE, UH, STUDIOS. UH, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW. ONE TWOS AND THREES NEXT, UH, SLIDE PLEASE. UH, SORRY, IF YOU COULD JUST GO BACK, ADAM, THAT'S ONE THING I WANNA SAY. YEAH, SO OUR STUDIOS ARE NOT SUPER TINY. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A TREND TOWARD THESE MICRO UNITS. THESE ARE, THEY'RE NARROW, BUT THEY ARE, UH, MOSTLY HOVERING AROUND 500 SQUARE FEET. SO, UM, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE AN INTERNAL BEDROOM WITH A, UM, A BORROWED OF LIGHT WINDOW AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BARN DOOR TYPE SITUATION SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL OPEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN USE. UM, SO YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD SIZED STUDIO UNITS AND, UH, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THEY WORK WELL. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. THEY NEED DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, UM, NEXT PAGE LEASE. AND THEN FINALLY WE GET TO THE ROOF LEVEL. UH, WE DO BRING UP THE HEAD HOUSE AND STAIRWAYS AND TRY TO CREATE A COMMON ROOF DECK UP HERE. WE ARE LIMITED IN SIZE BEFORE WE HAVE TO CALL THIS A STORY, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE. AND, UM, AND THEN THAT'S SURROUNDED BY A SUBSTANTIAL GREEN ROOF AREA THAT LOOKS OUT TO BOTH LINEAGE STREET AND MASSAC. UM, BEHIND THAT, UM, UH, BEHIND THE HEAD HOUSE AND THE LIFE ARE, ARE CONDENSERS AND, UH, THEY'RE FAR ENOUGH BACK, I THINK, AND WE CAN SHOW THIS IN OUR NEXT PRESENTATION THAT WE WON'T SEE THEM FROM THE SPEED. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SOLAR PANEL AREA AS WELL. SO, UM, UM, THAT I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE TO PUT IN THE SOLAR PANELS RIGHT FROM THE START UNDER THE PASSIVE HOUSING RULES. UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE OUR BUILDING EDGE ON, ON THE LOWER SIDE HERE. OKAY, NEXT ONE, PLEASE. UH, THIS IS THE, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN. I'LL COME BACK TO THIS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. AND CAN GO THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT WITH THE STREET TREES AND THE FURNISHINGS AND THE LIKE. I JUST WANNA MOVE THROUGH THE, UH, BUILDING DESIGN. SO THIS, WE HAVE, UM, MAYBE ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THESE, UM, SEMI RENDERED, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MASSING NOVELS. UM, WE ARE NOT YET, YOU KNOW, NAILED DOWN WITH ALL OF THE COLORS AND, YOU KNOW, FINISHES AND THE LIKE, BUT, UH, AND WE CERTAINLY WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ANY COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT. UM, BUT THIS [00:25:01] IS GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THE ARE AT WITH THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU WANNA BLOW UP THAT, UM, 3D MODEL, UM, STARTING FROM THE BASE, UM, LEMME JUST ROLL IN. YEAH. UM, STARTING FROM THE BASE, WE HAVE A BRICK BASE DOWN HERE, UH, WITH STOREFRONT WINDOWS, UH, TO BE DELINEATED, BUT THAT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO USE A FULL BED BRICK, UM, THAT HAS, UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME DETAIL TO IT AND PROBABLY SOME NICK OTHER, THE BRICKS WITH IT. AND THEN, UM, THAT'S TOPPED WITH A CANOPY, WHICH IT EXTEND OUT, UM, THROUGH OUR PROPERTY LINE OR CLOSE TO IT. UH, THE CANOPY, UM, DESCRIBES THE WHOLE CORNER JUST THE WAY IT IS, AND IT TRAPEZOID CREATING THAT SPACE UNDERNEATH IT THAT'S OUT OF THE, UH, SHELTERED AT, AT THE ENTRY. I THINK THAT'S VISIBLE THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT WORKS. AND THEN WE GO TO OUR MID MIDDLE PART OF THE BUILDING, WHICH CONSISTS OF, UH, STACKED WINDOWS, UM, AND, UH, UM, UH, PANELING BETWEEN THE WINDOWS, BOTH, UM, HORIZONTALLY AND VERTICALLY. THESE ARE ALL DONE WITH, UM, A MEDIUM WEIGHT, UM, A MEDIUM WEIGHT FIBER CEMENT PANEL CALLED C CLAD. THIS HAS, UH, I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. UH, IT HAS BOTH TEXTURE AND, UH, COLOR. UM, AND THEN A PROJECTING FROM THE BUILDING. WE HAVE THESE, UM, AREAS THAT ARE, UH, UM, I MEAN PROJECTIONS THAT ARE THREE STORIES AND TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT. AND THEY'RE TOPPED WITH A, UM, A SHALLOW BALCONY. MOST OF THESE ARE, THESE ARE, UH, THREE FEET DEEP. UM, AND, AND SO THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH, UH, TO CREATE, UH, A LOT OF SHADOW AND VISUAL INTEREST ON THE WALL. UH, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE DID GET FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS INTRIGUING, IS TO WRAP THIS, UM, MASS APPETITE, UH, FACADE AROUND THE CORNER, ONLY INSOFAR AS THE COMMERCIAL GOES AT THE BASE AND THEN STEP BACK, UM, OR TO A DIFFERENT MATERIAL, UM, THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR RESIDENTIAL STREET. SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I THINK YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE WANNA ADD TO THAT, WHAT THAT, UM, QUESTION WAS BEING POSED HERE. YOU CAN SEE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SHRINK THAT A LITTLE BIT. SORRY. YEAH. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, THAT SAME CANOPY WRAPPING AROUND, UH, MEANING THE COFFEE PLACE CAFE, IF WE CAN GET IT BACK. UM, THE BAY ALSO WRAPS AROUND AND WE STEP OUR BUILDING BACK FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, UH, ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE, EXCEPT FOR, UH, THAT IT'S, UH, GOT A ZERO SETBACK RIGHT AT THE FIRST FLOOR HERE, MUCH LIKE IT DOES NOW. UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION, UH, AS A FEATURE, WE HAVE ANGLED THE ENTRIES INTO THE DOORWAYS, SO THEY'RE NOT JUST, UM, POCKETS, THEY'RE MORE LIKE A KIND OF RECEIVING PEOPLE, UM, A LITTLE MORE GENEROUSLY WITH THAT, UM, ANGLE. AND IT ALSO, UH, CREATES A, A, A LOT OF VISUAL INTEREST ALONG THE SPEED FRONT AS YOU WALK AROUND THE BUILDING. UH, THEN AT THE TOP LEVEL, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, A BREAK IN THE, IN THE FACADE, UM, CREATING A VERY SMALL, UM, CHORUS LINE. AND THEN, UM, ABOVE THAT, UH, A MATERIAL THAT WHILE IT IS INTENDED TO, UH, CREATE A SIX FLOOR, UM, LOOK THAT DOES NOT, IT'S STILL IN THE SAME PLANE AS THE MAIN BUILDING, UM, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST GOT A DIFFERENT MATERIAL, SO IT FEELS LIKE IT RECEDES NOW. WE STILL HAVE TO WORK ON THAT COLOR IT IS AND SO FORTH, AND HOW IT CONTRASTS WITH THE FLOORS BELOW. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE WINDOW PATTERN'S A LITTLE SIMPLER. UM, THERE'S MORE FACADE, UM, MATERIAL AND, AND, AND LESS WINDOW. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THAT ONE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE HEAD HOUSE. AND HERE THE HEAD HOUSE IS WRAPPED, UH, ON STEPS AROUND WITH THE, UH, UM, THE HVAC UNITS AND THE SOLAR PANELS, I BELIEVE. UM, ONE THING WE HAVE TO CORRECT ON THIS IS THAT THE ELEVATOR HAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER HEADHOUSE AS IT COMES UP. NEXT SLIDE. YEAH. AND THIS GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA OF EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE ROOF, THE ROOF DECK, THE GREEN ROOF. UM, AND THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING DOWN LINEAN STREET, UH, DOWN AT THE BOTTOM HERE IN THE LOWER, UM, PORTION OF THE PROJECT, THERE IS A, UM, [00:30:01] THERE'S A GARAGE DOOR FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT, UM, UH, LOAD CONVEY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DESIGN OF THAT, SEEING IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO GET SOME WINDOWS IN THERE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE HOW WE'VE STEPPED THE BUILDING BACK, BUT NOT ONLY AT THE BASE HAS ONE SET OF STEP, STEP BACKS, UM, BUT THEN WE'VE ALSO STEPPED IT BACK AT THE, UM, UM, FIFTH AND SIXTH FLOORS AS WELL. AND THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, IN PART, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A, UH, GESTURE TOWARD OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS DOWN LINE STREET. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, UM, THE SIXTH FLOOR HAS A KIND OF A DIFFERENT TEXTURE TO IT THAN THE FLOORS BELOW. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A VIEW OF CROSS LINEAN, RIGHT AT THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRY, AND, UM, QUITE A BIT OF, UH, STUFF THAT GETS INTO THE, OUR PART OF THE SIDEWALK HERE I MENTIONED. UH, BUT WE HAVE THIS NICE OVERHANG, UM, FOR THE BIG COMMERCIAL TENANT AT THE CORNER. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN NOW WE'RE INTO SOME STREET VIEWS. THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE ON MASS AVE WITH THE, UH, BIKE LANES, THE BUS SHELTERS, NEW TREES, UM, QUITE A FEW THINGS GOING ON. THERE'S ALSO AN ISLAND BETWEEN THE BIKE, UH, LANE AND THE DRIVE LANE. UM, SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THEM ALL INCORPORATED IN HERE YET. UH, PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE CITY IS, I THINK SOME OF IT IS STILL IN FLUX WITH THE CITY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT, THAT INFORMATION BEFORE OUR, OUR NEXT PRESENTATION SO THAT THIS IS ALL PROPERLY, PROPERLY DELINEATED FOR REVIEWED. NEXT SLIDE. AND HERE OUR CORNER VIEW, HEAD ON SHOT AND THESE NICE BIG CORNER WINDOWS UP THERE AND THE LINE STREET. UM, HOW AM I DOING ON TIME? I BELIEVE COULD GOOD 10 MINUTES OR SOMETHING. UM, AND THEN ONE MORE YOU, I THINK, YEAH. SO THIS IS OUR MATERIALS. THIS IS THE SARAH CLAD MATERIAL. IT HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT TEXTURES AVAILABLE. UM, THEY ARE, UH, RETOOLING THEIR FACTORY, THE CENTER CLA COMPANY, AND IT'S BEEN COMING FROM JAPAN, BUT SOONER IT'LL BE MADE IN THE USA AND, UH, THEY HAVE ABOUT 400 COLORS AVAILABLE. SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THAT COLOR PALETTE, WHICH WE SHOULD BE SEEING SHORTLY, UH, BEFORE WE FINALIZE THESE COLORS. AND LIKEWISE, WITH THE BRICK , WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET SOMETHING THAT WORKS WITH WHATEVER COLOR PALETTE WE ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH ON, UM, UH, FOR THE S CLA, THES, CLA IS, AS I SAID, IS A MEDIUM DENSITY, UM, UH, FIBER CEMENT. IT'S HELD ON WITH A, A, UM, MATRIX SYSTEM. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SERIOUS, UH, PRODUCT. IT'S NOT LIKE A SIMPLE HEARTED BOARD OR HIGHLY PLANK. IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HALF, FIVE DAYS , SO IT'S MORE LIKE A, UM, CHE IF SOMEBODY YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT I'VE BEEN POPULAR FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. UH, LET'S SEE. IS THERE ONE MORE SLIDE OR IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT. OKAY. SO LET'S GO BACK TO LANDSCAPE AND HAVE KATYA, UM, MAKE PRESENTATION ON LANDSCAPE. EVERYBODY HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT. SO, HELLO, MY NAME IS KATIA PSLO. I AM PRINCIPAL AT VERDANT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE OUT OF COOLIN CORNER IN BROOKLINE. UM, I JUST HAVE TWO SLIDES TO SHARE BRIEFLY HERE, AND THEN WE CAN GET TO YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. UM, THIS FIRST SLIDE IS THE AT GRADE LANDSCAPE PLAN. UM, WE FOCUSED OUR ENERGY ON THE ENTRYWAYS AND STREETSCAPES, OF COURSE, UM, UH, INCLUDING SAVING THE EXISTING OAK TREES THAT ARE OUT ALONG MASS AVE, UM, TO BE DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE WHEN THE NEW, UM, TRAFFIC PLAN, UM, IS, UH, FINALIZED. UH, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, BE HAPPY TO INTEGRATE THAT WHEN IT'S, UM, AVAILABLE. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ADDING STREET TREES ALONG LINEAN STREET, WHICH WE'RE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT ALONG THE TOP OF THE PAGE, THOSE THREE NEW GREEN CIRCLES, 30 FEET ON CENTER. UM, AND SINCE THE BUILDING IS SET BACK ALONG LINEAN BY ABOUT 10 FEET AT OUR LOBBY ENTRY, WE'RE ABLE TO OCCUPY THAT AREA BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THE BUILDING FRONT, UM, WITH UNIT PAVING, UH, PERMEABLE UNIT PAVING, UM, SOME BIKE RACKS AND MOVABLE FURNISHINGS TO ACTIVATE AND CALL ATTENTION TO THE FRONT DOOR HERE AND MAKE IT A REALLY WELCOMING PLACE. UM, SOME [00:35:01] OF THESE THINGS MIGHT SHIFT A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER CONSTRAINTS TO WORK WITH. UNDERGROUND IN THIS ZONE IS THE STORMWATER, UM, STORAGE TANK, UH, AND TO ITS LEFT, THOSE THREE, UM, WHITE SQUARES DESIGNATE THE VAULT AND ACCESS COVERS TO THE UNDERGROUND TRANSFORMER. UM, UM, WITH THE CLOSING OF MOST OF THE CURB CUT ALONG THIS STRETCH WHERE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF DANGEROUS, UM, ACTIVITY WITH THE PEOPLE BACKING OUT OF THE, UH, WALGREENS PARKING AREA. THIS PROJECT IS GONNA VASTLY IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALONG THE STREETSCAPE AND MAKE, MAKE IT MUCH MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, UM, AND PRETTY . UM, AND SO BESIDES THOSE THREE NEW STREET TREES OUT ON THE CURB THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THIS FOURTH TREE THAT YOU SEE IN THE CORNER. UM, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS A BRICK DRIVEWAY JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY LINE. AND, UM, WE HAVE THAT, UM, GARAGE DOOR IN THIS LOCATION. SO WE THOUGHT A CANOPY IN THIS AREA MIGHT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SENSE. WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH A PLANT BED THAT CAN EXTEND DOWN THE FIVE FOOT WIDE, UM, SPACE BETWEEN THE FENCE LINE AND OUR BUILDING, UM, TO GROW ITS ROOTS AND MAKE A HAPPY, HAPPY LITTLE SHADE TREE RIGHT THERE. UM, AND THERE THERE'S A NICE LATTICE FENCE BETWEEN OUR, ALREADY THE NEIGHBORS HAVE A NICE LATTICE FENCE BETWEEN THEIR, UH, DRIVEWAY AND OUR PROPERTY. SO THERE'S GOOD VISIBILITY. UM, I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY, JUST TO BACK TO THE UNIT PAVING, THE GRAYISH LAVENDER COLOR DESIGNATES THAT PERMEABLE UNIT PAVING, UM, WHICH WILL SKIRT NOT JUST THIS FACADE, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC FACADE ON MASS AVE, UM, DECORATING AND REINFORCING THE ARCHITECTURAL FACADE. SO, UM, WHILE THE CONCRETE SIDEWALK, UH, PORTION OF THE STREET STREETSCAPE ALONG MASS AVE IS PRESERVED THE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, THE BUS STOP AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, OUT THERE, UH, WE ARE SETTING OUR BUILDING BACK BY THREE FEET, ALLOWING US TO INSTALL THIS, UH, DECORATIVE SKIRTING OF PERMEABLE PAVERS. AND WE'LL HAVE PLANTERS OUT IN FRONT FOR SEASONAL PLANTINGS. UM, AND SOME BIKE RACKS OUT IN FRONT. UM, THESE ARE ONE-SIDED BIKE RACKS, SO JUST ONE BIKE PER RACK. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM, IT'S THREE FEET, AND I THINK WE NEED FOUR FEET TO PROVIDE TWO BIKES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE RACK, SO NOT QUITE ENOUGH ROOM FOR A TWO-SIDED BIKE RACK. UM, AND OVERALL, UH, I'LL JUST STEP BACK AND SAY THAT VIRILE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, WE'RE VERY, REALLY COGNIZANT, UM, OF THE NEED TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, BIODIVERSITY AND WILDLIFE. SO ALL OF OUR PLANTING PLANS RELY MAINLY ON NATIVE SPECIES. UM, IN HERE, UH, THOUGH IT'S A SORT OF A LI A SMALLER LIST, A SHORTER LIST, UM, WE'RE INCLUDING NATIVE SPECIES FOR ALL THE TREES AND THE SHRUBS. SO THE, UM, THOSE ARE THREE ELM TREES, AND THE SINGLE TREE ON THE LEFT IS A BLACK TUPELO TREE LOOKING SOMETHING LIKE THOSE PICTURES ALONG THE BOTTOM. AND THEN THERE'S SOME SHRUBS, UM, IN THE FAR LEFT HAND UPPER CORNER THAT'S, UM, INK BERRY SHRUBS, ALL REALLY GOOD FOR POLLINATORS AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING OUR BIODIVERSITY AND WORLD. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL, IF WE COULD JUST GO UP TO THE, UM, ROOF LEVEL AND STEP, UH, TOUCH ON THIS. UM, HERE WE'VE DEVELOPED AN OUTDOOR AMENITY DECK, UH, AT THE SORT OF NORTHEAST CORNER, UM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE SHADE THAT MIGHT BE CAST FROM THE ELEVATOR STAIRWELL HEADHOUSE. UM, IN THE AFTERNOONS, THE SUN SHIFTS AROUND, THERE'LL BE A LITTLE SHADE ON THIS DECK. UM, THE MECHANICALS WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS HEAD HOUSE FROM THE GATHERING AREA IN THE DECK, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE SCREENED. UM, SO IT'LL BE A NICE ENVIRONMENT. PLUS YOU CAN SEE WE'VE SURROUNDED IT WITH A GREEN ROOF, A SEDUM PLANTED GREEN ROOF, EXTENSIVE. UM, SO THE DECK ITSELF WILL LIKELY BE A COMPOSITE, UH, WOOD DECK, UH, WITH THE GUARDRAIL AROUND IT, OF COURSE, FOR SAFETY, AS PETE, YOU SAW IN SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT PETER HAD DEVELOPED. UH, NOW I THINK I'M GONNA CLOSE, I, I THINK WE'VE WRAPPED UP OUR PRESENTATION AND I'LL HAND IT BACK TO ADAM, I SUPPOSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY REMAINING REMARKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE, UH, REMAINING REMARKS UNLESS YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR CIVIL ENGINEER CAMERON CAMPBELL, REGARDING SOME OF THE UTILITY INSTALLATION. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR NOT. WE CAN TOUCH ON THAT IF THAT'S IMPORTANT. I THINK WE COULD, UH, LEAVE THAT FOR Q AND A, UH, IF THE BOARD HAS, HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE APPROACH FOR, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERING, GIVEN THAT WE'RE PAST THE 30 MINUTE HERE. OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND. NO, THAT'S FINE. IMPORTANT TRADE, BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, WE'LL POKE AT IT IN THE QUESTIONS. UM, GREAT. UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO ACCORDING TO THE ZONING, WE WILL TAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT IN AT THESE DESIGN REVIEW SESSIONS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND SPEAKERS THAT [00:40:01] THE BOARD'S ACTION IS NOT TO APPROVE OR DENY AN APPLICATION, BUT TO PROVIDE ADVISORY COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT AND IN MATERIALS SUBMITTED IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION. SO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK SHOULD NOW CLICK THE BUTTON THAT SAYS, RAISE HAND. IF YOU'RE CALLING IN BY PHONE, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND BY PRESSING STAR NINE AS OF 5:00 PM YESTERDAY, THE BOARD HAD RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM ALLISON MATTHEWS, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED AFTER 5:00 PM YESTERDAY WOULD BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. I'LL NOW ASK STAFF TO UNMUTE SPEAKERS ONE AT A TIME, AND YOU SHOULD BEGIN BY SAYING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT. UH, WE CAN HEAR YOU AFTER THAT. YOU WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK BEFORE I ASK YOU TO WRAP UP. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE HANDS RAISED SO FAR, SO IF YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK, PLEASE, UM, PUSH THE RAISED HAND BUTTON NOW TO GET IN THE QUEUE. UM, FIRST WE HAVE, UH, YOUNG KIM, FOLLOWED BY SUZANNE BLEA, AND I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IF I MISPRONOUNCE ANYONE'S NAME. UM, YOUNG KIM. UH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND, UH, AND, AND BEGIN SPEAKING. PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. UH, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD UNDER THE MASSACHUSETTS ON DECEMBER 22ND, 25, I AM RAISING THESE QUESTIONS TO ENSURE THAT THIS REVIEW, SUCH AS SOUND AND DEFENSE, WILL PRESS RESIDENT FOR FUTURE REVIEWS UNDER THE ZONING FRAMEWORK. FIRST, REGARDING THE SCOPE OF ADVISORY REVIEW, THE CDD MEMO STATES THAT THE BOARD IS TO REVIEW, UH, PERFORMANCE WITH THE SECTION 17.800 AND SO FORTH. AND THEN IT HAS, UM, ANY OTHER APPLICABLE DOCUMENTS FOR CLARITY AND PROCEDURAL INTEGRITY. CDD SHOULD EXPLICITLY IDENTIFY IN EACH MEMO, WHICH PLANS AND GUIDELINES ARE DEEMED APPLICABLE AND CONFIRM THAT THESE ARE THE ONLY ONES BEING USED FOR EVALUATION. FOR THE SECOND ADVISORY REVIEW, THE APPLICANT SHOULD PROVIDE A CLEAR MATRIX CROSS REFERENCING SECTION SEVEN 10.800 STANDARD, AND THOSE IDENTIFIED PLANS AND GUIDELINES TO SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF THE PROPOSAL TO REVISE CDT MEMO FOR THE SECOND REVIEW SHOULD LIKEWISE RESTATE THE APPLICABLE CRITERIA. SECOND ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE MEMO INDICATES THAT THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE HELD BETWEEN NOVEMBER 11TH AND DECEMBER 10TH OF 25. HOWEVER, THE LAST ORDINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING PRIOR TO THE FIRST MEETING OCCURRED ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2ND OF 25. AND THE MIS ZONING AMENDMENT WAS NOT ORDAINED UNTIL DECEMBER 22ND. DURING THAT PERIOD, THE ORDINANCE WAS STILL UNDER DISCRETION AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE ENGAGEMENT CONDUCTED BEFORE THE STANDARD, UH, FORMALLY ADAPTED THAT BE TREATED AS SATISFYING. THE PVC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REQUIREMENT UNDER THE UNITED ZONING TO DO SO WOULD EFFECTIVELY ALLOW PROJECTS TO RELY ON, ANTICIPATE RESTRICTIVE OUTCOME, AND WOULD SET AN UNDESIRABLE PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE CASES FOR PROJECTS PROCEEDING UNDER NEWLY ADOPTED BASED CERTAIN FRAMEWORK. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SHOULD LOOK OCCUR UNDER THE FINAL INACTIVE STANDARDS. SO THE RESIDENTIAL RESPONDING TO RULES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN EFFECT. AS FOR DESIGN CONSIDERATION, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES COMMERCIAL SPACE ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND THE BASEMENT WITH NO OBSTACLE PARKING PROPOSED. GIVEN THE CITYWIDE URBAN DESIGN OBJECTIVES, EMPHASIZING PEDESTRIAN ORIENTATION, ACCESSIBILITY, AND MITIGATION OF IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING STREETS, I ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO EVALUATE WHETHER THE BASEMENT MIGHT MORE LIKE EFFECTIVELY SERVE AS STRUCTURED PARKING THAT COULD IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY FOR DISABLED RESIDENTS WITH REDUCE CONGESTION AT A INTERSECTION AND ALLOW GROUNDS OR COMMERCIAL SPACE TO FUNCTION MORE EFFECTIVELY AS SIDEWALK LEVEL. SECOND, THE [00:45:01] MEMBER STATES THAT SMALL PORTION . MR. KIM, COULD YOU WRAP UP PLEASE? UH, YES. YOUR TIME'S EXPIRED. THANK YOU. YES, MORE PORTION WILL ANALYZE ON C ONE, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW HOW MUCH OF THAT IS, UH, UH, HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTIES IN THAT, UH, UH, IN THAT. UH, SO C ONE IS ON, AND FINALLY ON SLIDE 3D 0.1, UM, THE, UH, SOUTH OF THE PROJECT SHOWS US, UH, GREEN SPACE, AND THAT IS IN AS STRESS, I'M CONCERNED, IS NOT A PART OF THE PROJECT AND IS NOT CURRENTLY GREEN SPACE. SO, OKAY. MR. KIM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR INPUT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SUZANNE BLEIER, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL BENTLEY. SUZANNE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. SUZANNE BLEIER, FIVE FULLER PLACE. UM, ON A WHOLE, I THINK THIS IS AN APPEALING DESIGN. I WASN'T NECESSARILY PREPARED TO SAY THAT AT THE OUTSET. I LIKE THE SETBACKS. I LIKE THE SIXTH FLOOR DESIGN, THE BALANCE OF COLOR. UH, I WISH THE PLANNING BOARD HAD DESIGN OVERSIGHT, NOT JUST ADVISORY, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE BALCONIES. ARE THEY JUST FOR ONE APARTMENT OR MULTIPLE APARTMENTS ON, I THINK IT'S THE THIRD FLOOR. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, YOUNG KIM BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION OF DISABILITY PARKING AND DROP OFF. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING TO, UM, ADD, UH, TO EITHER MASS AVE OR LINEAN STREET? 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL VIS-A-VIS DISABILITY, UM, FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, WHAT IS THE DIAMETER OF THE NEW TREES ON LINEAN AND MASS AVE? UH, QUESTION, WILL YOU HAVE ELECTRIC PLUGS FOR ELECTRIC BIKES IN THE BASEMENT? AND HOW DO YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THE PROBLEMS? UH, WITH THAT? UH, AN IMPORTANT QUESTION ON INCLUSIONARY. WHICH OF THE UNITS, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM WILL BE INCLUSIONARY? AND IF THERE'S NO INCLUSIONARY VIS-A-VIS THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY'S RESIDENTS AND THE CITY ITSELF BY PATRICK BARRETT, HOW ARE YOU GONNA ADDRESS THINGS IN THAT CONTEXT? AND FINALLY, AND PROBABLY NOT GERMANE HERE, BUT IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, UM, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY ON THE ROOF OF, UH, PUTTING HERE OR ELSEWHERE, A PRESCHOOL PLAY AREA? AND I BRING THIS UP 'CAUSE OUR DAUGHTER, UM, GREW UP WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG IN NEW YORK CITY, WE HAD A 13 STORY BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO US. WE WERE A 12 STORY BUILDING, AND THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE, UM, PRE-K WAS ON THE ROOF, AND IT WORKED OUT WONDERFULLY. AND JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY FOR MORE PRE-K, IS IT A POSSIBILITY TO ENVISION THE PLANNING BOARD AMONG OTHERS OF TRYING TO FIND WAYS IN WHICH WE HAVE PLACES FOR PRE-K AND RELATED, UM, AFFILIATED PLAYGROUNDS? THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL BENTLEY, FOLLOWED BY JAMES WILLIAMSON. UM, THAT WILL BE, UH, THE, THE LAST OF THE, THE SPEAKERS THAT HAVE THEIR HANDS RAISED. SO, UH, IF YOU DID WANT TO SPEAK, PLEASE, UM, BE SURE TO, TO RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, MICHAEL, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. UH, PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. MY NAME IS MICHAEL BENTLEY. UM, I'M REPRESENTING LINEAN CORPORATION, WHICH IS THE DIRECT ABUTTER, THE HISTORIC PROPERTY, JUST ON THE MASS SIDE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE, JUST A PROCEDURAL THINGS. UM, THIS IS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE BOARD, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, DESIGN, UM, AS A DIRECT, WE GOT OUR NOTICE FORMALLY YESTERDAY, AND I HAVE A MEETING, I HAD A MEETING OFFERED, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING. SO IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO, UM, RESPOND APPROPRIATELY IN THREE MINUTES TO THIS. AND I, I JUST NEED TO STATE THAT I WOULD ASK FOR PATIENCE, AND I WILL TRY TO BE VERY BRIEF, BUT, UM, IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, I THINK THAT AS SOMEBODY WHO'S GIVEN A HISTORIC EASEMENT TO THE CITY, UM, THERE, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TWO MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS FOR A, A PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE MULTI HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, IMPACT ON OUR BUILDING AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE HOW WE THINK ABOUT OUR BUILDING AND WHAT WE DO WITH IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE. AND I WOULD ASK MAYBE FOR CONSIDERATION THERE, UM, I'LL JUST NOTE THAT IT'S PROTECTED SPACE. I'VE BEEN GRATEFUL. UM, [00:50:01] IT'S A BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. UM, THE, WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN THE NEXT ROUND THERE ARE CORNER VIEWS AND EVEN A, THERE A STREET VIEW THAT INCLUDES DESIGN INCORPORATING A RELATIVELY REALISTIC, UH, OR MORE REALISTIC, UH, VIEW OF THE HISTORIC PROPERTY, UH, AT 1734, SO THAT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS IS CLEAR AND THE, UH, IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A PROTECTED OPEN SPACE THAT THE CITY CAN ENJOY. IT WILL BE TREMENDOUS, UH, ASSET TO THE STREET. AND ALSO, UH, CREATE A MUCH MORE DIGNIFIED AND ARCHITECTURALLY APPROPRIATE FRAMING. FOR 1734 MASS AVE. UH, WE'D ASK TO STRONGLY CONSIDER EASING THE CORNER, UH, AT THE CORNER OF 1734 MASS AVE. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD GREATLY ENHANCE THE SETTING OFF OF THE BUILDINGS AGAINST EACH OTHER AND CREATE LESS OF A HARSH, UH, INDUSTRIAL CONNECTION. IT WOULD HUMANIZE IT, IT WOULD ALSO GREATLY, GREATLY INCREASE PEDESTRIAN PES UH, SAFETY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE INCREASING DENSITY A LOT ON THE CORNER. AND I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE ELIMINATED THE LINEAN DRUG THING, BUT, UH, UH, PEDESTRIAN, UH, RISKS. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING, WE WANNA AVOID THAT ON OUR SIDE. UM, THE BALCONIES, UH, WE WOULD ASK TO KEEP ABOVE THE THIRD FLOOR LEVEL. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING, WHICH WE CAN'T REALLY MODIFY TO HAVE, UH, A BALCONY RIGHT OPPOSITE, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, WINDOWS IN OUR PLACE. I, I JUST FINALLY, UM, THE 1734 OR THE 1740, UH, SIGNAGE ON THE CORNER IS VERY PROMINENT, AND I WOULD ASK FOR NOTE SIGNAGE AND NUMBER INDICATION OR SOMETHING MUCH MORE DISCREET AND IDEALLY ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING. UM, I'LL ASK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET, UH, AND CARRY ON TOMORROW WITH EVAN. I HAD SOMETHING COME UP IN MY FAMILY, BUT, UM, TO, UH, HAVE A BRIEF MEETING WITH PLANNING AND HAVE THOSE, UH, THE PRODUCT OF THAT, UM, BE INCORPORATED IN YOUR PLANNING NOTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, JAMES WILLIAMSON. WE HAVE NO OTHER HANDS RAISED. UM, SO AGAIN, IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND, AND YOU CAN ENTER THE QUEUE. UM, APOLOGIES. I, I PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTON. JAMES, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. YEAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. THANK YOU. WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO JAMES WILLIAMSON, UM, I MAY BE BOARDING A BUS ON MASS AVE IN, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF MY COMMENTS. SO, UH, PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. I'M TAKING THE 77 BUS. I TAKE IT TYPICALLY AT LEAST TWO TIMES A DAY. UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN BUSES THAT GOES BY THIS LOCATION. UM, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT CLEAR, I DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUS STOP. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE ON, I, I CHECKED, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE MEETING THAT WAS HELD BY THE PORTER SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 20TH. AND AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS PUBLIC DISCUSSION AFTER A PRESENTATION, AND THERE WAS AN IMAGE SHOWN OF A FLOATING BUS STOP AT THAT LOCATION WHERE THE SHELTER AND STOP WOULD BE OUT ON A FLOATING ISLAND OUTSIDE WHERE THE BIKE LANE WAS BEING PLANNED. AND, UM, TONIGHT WE'RE HEARING THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO GETTING A PRESENTATION OF LANDSCAPE DESIGN SHOWING IT LOOKS LIKE A BUS STOP ON THE SIDEWALK. SO I THINK THIS IS IN GENERAL, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, CLEARED UP. UH, BUT, BUT ESPECIALLY UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT, AND THE AT BEST AMBIGUITY ABOUT THE, THE LOCATION AND, AND AND NATURE OF THAT BUS STOP. UM, I DO THINK WE'RE LIVING IN A CITY WHERE WE'RE CONSTANTLY TOLD BY PEOPLE WHO I, I DOUBT EVER TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, HOW WELL SERVED WE ARE BY IT ON THE MASS A CORRIDOR THAT WAS MENTIONED. UM, WHEN THE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PUTTING FORWARD THE 12 STORY UPZONING, UH, WE WERE TOLD HOW WELL SERVED IT IS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DESERVE A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. UH, AND IT, IT, IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT MAKES SENSE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S TAKEN MONTHS FOR THERE TO BE CLARITY [00:55:01] ON THIS PRETTY IMPORTANT DIMENSION OF THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHAT MY COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CLARIFIED OR WHERE, WHAT'S THE STORY? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT, UH, FLOATING BUS STOP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JAMES. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE HANDS THAT WERE RAISED. SO THE NEXT SPEAKER, UH, WILL BE HELEN WALKER, FOLLOWED BY MARYLEE MEYER. UH, HELEN, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. HI, THIS IS HELEN WALKER AT 43 LINEAN STREET. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I'M SORRY I WAS A LITTLE LATE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE FLOOR PLANS ARE THE SAME AS WERE IN THE PACKAGE LAST NIGHT, BUT WHAT I SAW LAST NIGHT, UM, HAS A PROBLEM. I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT MAXIMIZES THE SITE AND GOES TO THE EDGE AS MUCH AS IT CAN. THE FALLOUT FROM THAT IS THAT THERE ISN'T QUITE ENOUGH PERIMETER TO, TO HAVE ENOUGH WINDOWS IN EACH UNIT. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THE WINDOW PLANS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES FACING DOWN MASS AVENUE, YOU'VE GOT A UNIT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY 14 FEET BY 32 FEET WITH A SINGLE WINDOW, AND IT STACKS BACK WITH ONLY THE LITTLE SITTING AREA RIGHT AT THE WINDOW, HAVING WINDOW. AND THEN THE BEDROOM AREA. THE KITCHEN AREA HAS NOTHING. IT'S A LONG DARK SPACE. IT'S GOING TO BE POORLY, NATURALLY VENTILATED. AND THIS IS A FALLOUT FROM TRYING TO HAVE ONE BIG MASS RATHER THAN SOME KIND OF SHAPE THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ENOUGH PERIMETER THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE NUMBER OF WINDOWS THAT YOU NEED. UM, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DON'T THINK THOSE WIN THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE VERY NICE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SHORT TERM UNITS AFTER WHICH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO GET A REAL APARTMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. UM, MARY MEYER, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. UM, PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YES, MARYLEE MEYER 10 DANA STREET. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, I JUST GOT ON A MINUTE AND A HALF AGO AFTER SPENDING 45 MINUTES TRYING TO GET TO THIS SITE WITH A NEW SYSTEM. AND WHEN I GOT ON SITE, I GOT THREE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS GOING ON. SO I'M REALLY FRUSTRATED. AND, UM, I ALSO DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THE, UM, PRESENTATION, BUT I, I, UM, THOUGHT, UM, I HAVE SEEN IT, UM, BEFORE. UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, WITH 71 UNITS, UH, SE UH, 71 UNITS, UM, I, THERE'S A, THERE IS A, UM, BIG PORTION THAT ARE JUST STUDIOS. AND JUST AS A, A FOLLOW UP WHAT, UM, HELEN WALKER JUST SAID, UM, THAT THEREFORE A TRANSIENT, UH, POPULATION AND NOT CONDUCIVE TO, TO LONGER STAY, LET ALONE FAMILIES. UM, AND IT'S, UM, LIKE, UH, A PIECE OF PIE THAT YOU JUST KIND OF SLICE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, UM, NARROWLY. UM, SO EVERYBODY GETS A TASTE, BUT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY LEAVE HUNGRY. UM, I IS, UM, DID THEY THINK, DID THE DEVELOPER THINK ABOUT, UM, AT LEAST JOINING A COUPLE OF THOSE LITTLE TEENY STUDIOS TO MAKE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UM, VIABLE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN? UM, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST BUILDING A DORMITORY FOR, FOR A SHORT, FOR SHORT TERM. AND THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT CAMBRIDGE IS LOOKING FOR. THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR POPULATION HERE. UM, AND OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST SUBSIDIZING, UM, UNIVERSITY STUDENTS. AND, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, REALLY NOT FAIR AND NOT THE, NOT THE POINT OF, OF ALL THIS REZONING. UM, IT IS A, UM, A BETTER, UM, PROJECT THAN BEFORE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTAINED. UM, I HOPE IN THE, UM, COLORS THAT IT IS, UM, MORE, UM, MUTED. UM, I'VE SEEN, UM, A LOT OF, UM, UH, OF THIS KIND OF BRANDING, IF YOU WILL BEFORE WITH COLORED, UM, UH, PANELS THAT, THAT JUST DON'T SIT RIGHT, UM, AND LOOK [01:00:01] A LITTLE TACKY. SO I HOPE, UM, UM, UM, UH, COLOR IS, UH, PAID ATTENTION TO, BUT THE SPACING INSIDE REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE IT'S, UH, IT NEEDS RECONFIGURING TO BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO A BETTER HOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT LOOKS TO BE THE END OF, UM, HANDS RAISED, SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR. GREAT, THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE, UH, FROM PUBLIC COMMENT TO, UH, BOARD DISCUSSION, UH, AND ADDITIONAL WRITTEN COMMENTS, UH, MAY BE SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD, UM, AFTER THIS. OKAY. DO, UH, BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE PROJECT TEAM OR STAFF, UM, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ANSWERED TONIGHT? DIEGO, HI. UM, I, I GUESS I HAVE TWO MAIN QUESTIONS. UM, ONE QUESTION IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO PUT A SORT OF COMMUNAL SPACE FOR LIKE MEETINGS OR PARTIES, UM, FOR THE GUESTS, WHETHER IT'S EITHER DOWNSTAIRS IN THAT LIVING SPACE THAT'S NEAR THE CAFE, OR UPSTAIRS ON THE ROOF NEAR THE COMMON ROOF DECK? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, WHICH, UM, SORT OF HAS MORE QUESTIONS, BUT THE, THE MAIN SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCE ON LINEAN STREET, IF THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE SIGNAGE OR IF, IF THAT'S THE ADDRESS FOR, FOR THE UNITS. SO I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE IF PEOPLE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, PICKED UP, DROPPED OFF LOADING ZONE, UH, FOR UBER OR SOMETHING, UM, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE PARKING ON LINEAN STREET, IF THE ADDRESS IS GONNA BE THERE, IF THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE A PLACE AT THAT ENTRANCE, UH, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, OR, OR, OR JUST PLANS AROUND WHERE PEOPLE WOULD PARK IF THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUTTA THAT RESIDENTIAL JUST FOR A SHORT TIME. IF THEY COULD BE PARKING ON MASS AVE, THEY'RE LOOKING UP THAT ADDRESS. UM, HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. SHOULD WE PLAN ON RESPOND THESE COMMENTS RIGHT NOW? YEAH, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TAKE THEM AS THEY COME. OKAY, GREAT. UM, FOR THE COMMUNAL SPACE, WE, WE, WE'VE MADE THE RESIDENTIAL LOBBY A LITTLE LARGER ON THIS PROJECT THAN WE HAVE ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS TO ALLOW FOR SOME INFORMAL GATHERING, NOT FORMAL PARTIES, BUT JUST INFORMAL GATHERING. AND WE'RE, UH, GONNA LOOK AT LOCATING A, A TRANSIT SCREEN INSIDE THIS LOBBY, UH, TO RESPOND TO THE, THE, THE, A LOT, THE, ALL THE TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE. UM, AND THEN ON THE ROOF DECK, IF I CAN, I CAN, I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN SO WE CAN POINT TO SOME OF THESE SPACES. THIS HEAD HOUSE ISN'T A, A LOT OF SPACE, UM, AND IT'S NOT PROGRAMMED YET. I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO MAX OUT THE, THE, THE SIZE WITHOUT CREATING AN ADDITIONAL STORY. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS MAXED OUT OR NOT YET. UH, PETER CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT THIS WAS AGAIN, KIND OF AN, A SMALL INFORMAL GATHERING AREA. UH, IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO HAVE A A A REAL PARTY OR, OR FUNCTION ROOM AT THIS PROJECT. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A RESPONSE TO THAT PART OF THE QUESTION THAT, UH, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRY, WE PLAN ON HAVING THAT ADDRESSED AS A, A LINEAN STREET ADDRESS. AND THEN THE, THE COMMERCIAL ENTRIES OFF OF, UH, MASS AVE WOULD HAVE, UH, MASS A ADDRESSES TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO. I'M, I'M NOT SURE, UH, LIKELY WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP A, A, A NAME FOR THE PROJECT. SO IT IT MAY HAVE SIGNAGE TO THAT EFFECT ON, ON LINEAN STREET. THANK YOU. GREAT. YOU'RE WELCOME, ASHLEY. WELL, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I THINK I, MY QUESTIONS ARE MOSTLY CONFIRMATORY QUESTIONS. SO FIRST ONE WAS, UM, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE PROPONENT IS NOT LOOKING FOR A, UM, GREEN ROOF SPECIAL PERMIT? I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE , I FEEL LIKE EVERY PROJECT HAS COME BEFORE US AS S ONE. UM, THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. SECOND ONE WAS, HAS THE PROPONENT ALREADY CHATTED WITH EVERSOURCE ABOUT THE, UM, UNDERGROUND VAULT OR IF THAT'S JUST A PROPOSAL? UM, AND THIRD QUESTION IS, I, I WASN'T CLEAR ON THIS, BUT UM, IS THE LOADING [01:05:01] DOCK MEANT TO SERVE AS JUST THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS OR ALSO THE COMMERCIAL UNITS? UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE INFORMATION. I WASN'T EASILY FINDING IT. UM, BUT CAN YOU PROVIDE A UNIT BREAKDOWN SO YOU KNOW, HOW MANY UNITS ARE STUDIOS? ONE BEDS? TWO BEDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, SO THE GREEN ROOF SPECIAL PERMIT, KATHY, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS MORE DIRECTLY. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE SEEKING A GREEN ROOF SPECIAL PERMIT. UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE ROOF IS, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT GREEN ROOF SPECIAL PERMIT BE FOR THE AMOUNT OF AREA ON THE ROOF OCCUPIED BY, UH, EITHER GREEN ROOF CONDENSERS OR, OR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT OR THE SOLAR ARRAY. 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO OC EXCEED THAT, UH, MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. I BELIEVE IT'S 85% OF THE TOTAL ROOFTOP AREA BEING OCCUPIED BY EITHER MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, SOLAR IN, IN GREEN ROOF, UM, IS THERE ANY MORE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE THIS, THIS SPECIAL PERMIT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR. YEAH, I BELIEVE WE NEED IT. I CAN, I CAN JUMP IN REALLY QUICKLY. THERE. THERE'S A SPECIAL PERMIT. WHAT, WHAT, UM, WHAT ASHLEY WAS REFERRING TO, THERE'S A SPECIAL PERMIT PATHWAY TO, UM, REDUCE THAT, THAT PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT BY, UM, UH, PAYING A, A FEE IN, IN LIEU OF, OF PROVIDING THAT, THAT GREEN ROOF. UM, WE, WE'VE SEEN IT IN A NUMBER OF PROJECTS. SO, UM, WHERE, WHERE THOSE REQUIREMENTS CAN BE CHALLENGING. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UM, WHAT ASHLEY WAS, WAS REFERRING TO. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH, SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UH, SEEKING THAT SPECIAL PERMIT. UH, FOR THE EVERSOURCE VAULT, WE, WE SUBMITTED A, UH, WE SUBMITTED A WORK ORDER REQUEST TO EVERSOURCE. WE'RE UPDATING THAT REQUEST. I BELIEVE IT'S GOING OUT IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO BASED ON SOME CHANGING LOADS, COMMERCIAL SPACES, ELEVATOR LOADS, ET CETERA. UH, SO WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH EVERSOURCE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE AN APPROVED DESIGN. A AS OF THIS AS OF RIGHT NOW. UM, STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. THE, THE LOADING DOCK IS DESIGNED TO SERVICE RESIDENTIAL MOVE-INS, MOVE OUTS, UH, TRASH, TRASH LOADING. WE ALSO HAVE A, A, LEMME JUST GO TO THE RESIDENTIAL OR THE LOADING DOCK. WE HAVE AN AUXILIARY DOOR HERE AS WELL, WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE PET WASH STATION. WE PLAN TO HAVE, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVE BIKES COMING THROUGH HERE AND HAVE A, A RINSE OFF STATION IN THE RESIDENTIAL LOADING AREA TO RINSE OFF BIKES THAT ARE DIRTY. UM, WE, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT TO BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE, BUT IT, IT COULD BE, I'M NOT SURE OF THE, IF THERE'S ANY ZONING IMPLICATIONS THERE OR NOT. IT, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME, SOME FURTHER STUDY. UM, THE UNIT BREAKDOWN, I CAN STATE THAT. SO I, I BELIEVE IT'S 40 STUDIOS, 13 ONE BEDS, TEN TWO BEDS, AND EIGHT THREE BEDS, AND TWO OF THOSE THREE BEDS WOULD BE, UH, INCLUSIONARY UNITS. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE, THE UNIT COUNT WOULD BE, UH, HAVE INCLUSIONARY UNITS AT THE APPROPRIATE PERCENTAGE. GREAT. ASHLEY, DOES THAT COVER YOUR QUESTIONS? SEEMS LIKE IT, YES. THANK YOU. YEP. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, DAN, YOU'RE NEXT. UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT FIRST I WANTED TO SEE IF, UM, THE PRESENTERS WANTED TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THE PUBLIC QUESTIONS THAT WERE OUT THERE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY SPECIFIC RESPONSES, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE A MOMENT FOR THAT BEFORE I JUMP IN. YES. UM, I COULD START WITH JAMES WILLIAMSON ABOUT THE, THE BUS STOP, BECAUSE THAT'S A, I THINK THAT CAME UP MORE THAN ONCE. SO THE CITY HAS A, A, A PLAN THAT WE WERE PROVIDED WITH A, A MASS AVE, UH, ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION PLAN THAT SHOWS A FLOATING, UH, FLOATING BUS STOP OUTSIDE OF THE BIKE LANE. SO WE INITIALLY, WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO OUR PLAN AT SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, MEETINGS, AND WE INCORPORATED INTO THIS SUBMISSION AS WELL. BUT THE, WE WERE THEN TOLD THAT THAT PLAN WASN'T FINALIZED, AND WE WERE REQUESTED THE CAD DRAWINGS, THE FINAL CAD DRAWINGS FROM, UH, DPW. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THOSE CAD DRAWINGS AS OF YET TO INCORPORATE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FINALIZED AND STAMPED BY THE, THE ENGINEER THAT'S DESIGNING IT. SO WE WERE, UH, WE WERE TOLD TO ELIMINATE ANY OF THOSE DRAWINGS UNTIL WE HAVE THE FINAL, UH, STAMPED CAD FILES THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE IN, INTO OUR PLANS. SO AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE THOSE CAD FILES FROM THE CITY, WE'RE GONNA INCORPORATE THEM SO WE CAN COMPLETE AND WORK WITH THE CITY [01:10:01] TO COMPLETE THIS DESIGN. BUT WE WERE JUST, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO KEEP THE CURRENT PLAN, UH, IN OUR SET UNTIL WE HAVE THE FINAL CAD DRAWINGS FROM THE CITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, NOT IDEAL. AND, AND WE WANT TO UPDATE IT AS SOON AS WE, UH, WE RECEIVE THEM FROM THE CITY, BUT AS OF YET, WE, WE HAVE NOT. UM, LEMME GO BACK TO A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS. THE, THE BALCONIES FOR ONE APARTMENT, SO THE, THE BALCONIES, LET ME GO TO THE PLANS HERE. SO THIS IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR HERE. UH, THERE'LL LIKELY BE SOME, IF WE HAVE A BALCONY HERE AT ALL, OR A DECK HERE AT ALL, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR NEIGHBOR ABOUT THIS, THIS DECK ON THE, ON THE SECOND OR THIRD LEVEL, UH, THERE'LL, THERE WOULD BE SOME DIVIDERS HERE. SO THERE'D BE A, A BEL THIS WOULD BE A BALCONY JUST FOR THESE UNITS. SO THESE FOUR UNITS WOULD HAVE A DECK OFF THEM ON THE FOURTH FLOOR, I BELIEVE IT'S NOT SHOWN IN THIS PLAN SET. THERE'D BE A BALCONY FOR EACH OF THESE THREE UNITS RIGHT HERE. AND THEN I THINK IN OUR, SOME OF OUR SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIALS, LEMME SEE. SO HERE'S THE, THE FIFTH FLOOR PLAN. SO THERE'S BALCONIES HERE FOR THESE THREE UNITS, AND THERE'S A DECK FOR THIS ONE BED. AND THEN WE GO UP A STORY AND THERE'S A DECK FOR THIS ONE BED UNIT AS WELL. UM, FOR THE ELECTRIC BIKE CHARGING, UH, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH A, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE ELECTRIC BIKE CHARGING IN THE, IN THE BASEMENT LEVEL WHERE THE, THE BIKE LONG-TERM BIKE STORAGE IS. BUT THAT'LL BE, UH, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS, UH, VERY COGNIZANT OF, OF POTENTIAL FIRE RISK AND, AND CHARGING ELECTRIC BIKES IN THOSE ENCLOSED SPACES. THE ROOFTOP PLAY AREA IS A GREAT IDEA. I JUST, BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITED TO 750 SQUARE FEET OF, OF AREA, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE ROOM FOR IT. WE COULD, WE COULD STUDY THAT A LITTLE MORE. UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MICHAEL BENTLEY HAD ABOUT EASING THE CORNER ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON MASS AV ARE GREAT, UH, GREAT SUGGESTIONS. AND WE, WE MET AT THE SITE AND, AND SPOKE ABOUT THIS, AND WE'RE PLANNING TO INCORPORATE THOSE DESIGN MODIFICATIONS IN THE NEXT SUBMISSION. AND WE'RE OPEN TO KEEPING THE DESI THE SIGNAGE OFF THE FACE OF, ON THE, ON MASS AVE AND NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING, UH, HIS PROPERTY. KATIA, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE, THE DBH OF THE STREET TREES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING OR THING THERE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YEAH, SURE THING. THANK YOU. SO THE STREET TREES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THE ONE IN THE CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY ARE PROPOSED AT TWO AND A HALF TO THREE INCH SIZE CALIPER. UM, THE THREE ELMS ARE FAIRLY FAST GROWING, SO, UH, AND THOSE, THOSE ARE TYPICAL SIZES THAT YOU'D OFTEN PLANT. UM, BUT THEY COME WITH BIG B AND BURLAP ROOTS. UM, SO THEY'RE VERY HEAVY. AND, UM, THEY WILL, THE, THE ELEMENT TREES ARE IN PARTICULAR ARE PRETTY FAST GROWING, THE BLACK TWO BELOW TREE, MODERATELY, UM, YOU KNOW, NORMAL GROWTH RATE AT LIKE A FOOT A YEAR OR SOMETHING. SO THE, THE TRUNKS GET LARGER AND LARGER, AS YOU ALL KNOW. AND I KNOW THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF FENESTRATION ON THE EXTERIOR FACADE IN SOME OF THE LONGER, DEEPER STUDIO UNITS. UH, WE'RE WORKING VERY CAREFULLY ON THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE, IN, IN INSIDE OF THESE UNITS. AND WE BELIEVE, EVEN THOUGH THESE STUDIO UNITS MAY APPEAR SMALL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY QUITE, UH, SPACIOUS COMPARED TO A LOT OF STUDIO UNITS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. AND, AND WE THINK THEY'LL BE, UH, LAID OUT VERY ELEGANTLY WITH A, A SEPARATE SLEEPING AREA, WHICH IS KINDA ABNORMAL FOR A LOT OF STUDIOS BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ROOM. SO WE'RE STILL, WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THAT, AND WE, WE WANT TO OPTIMIZE THE DESIGN, UH, TO KEEP, KEEP RESIDENTS IN THE BUILDING. I THINK THAT'S MOST OF THE PUBLIC COMMON QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ANSWERS TO. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UH, THANK YOU, DAN, FOR, FOR PROMPTING THE PETITIONER TO, TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, COMMENTS. SO DAN, HOW ABOUT YOU? YOU'VE GOT, UH, SOME OBSERVATIONS. YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU TO MR. SIEGEL AND, AND, UH, KA FOR, UH, FOR THOSE, UH, THOSE ANSWERS. UM, YEAH, JUST TWO QUESTIONS. UM, UM, SO, UH, ONE, UM, REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE, UM, [01:15:01] I GUESS THERE'S PUBLIC RESTROOMS THAT I SEE PROPOSED AT THE LOWER LEVEL. UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR MEANT MORE FOR, UH, SUPPORT FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND, AND RETAIL. UM, IT, UM, OBVIOUSLY FOR, UM, ANY OF THE STREET LEVEL RETAIL, UH, YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND THEN DOWN THROUGH THE LOBBY TO ACCESS IT. SO MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, UM, RESPONSE TO THE THOUGHT PROCESS. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER ACTUALLY WAS PROMPTED BY DIEGO'S QUESTION. UM, AND, UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S A SPECIAL PERMIT TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES TO ALL, UM, GRADE LEVEL BIKE PARKING. UM, BUT JUST GIVEN THE, UM, ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT BIKE BARKING TAKES UP, UM, THERE ARE, UM, MODELS OF THINGS I THINK EVEN THAT, UM, STAFF HAVE ACCESS TO AT, UH, AT BROADWAY, UM, THAT HAVE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, HYDRAULIC LIFTS. BUT IT'S A, UM, IT IS A PLANNING BOARD SPECIAL PERMIT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD ANY, UH, TO DATE, BUT, UM, CURIOUS IF THAT WOULD RELIEVE SOME, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE AT THE LOWER LEVEL FOR ADDITIONAL AMENITY SPACE. YEAH. THANK YOU, DAN. UM, SO THE, THE RESTROOM'S IN THE, IN THE BASEMENT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, KEYSERS RIGHT NOW ON THIS LAYOUT, AND WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN THEM AS A, A TENANT. UH, THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS, LIKELY THEY WON'T BE ACCESSED OFF THE COMMERCIAL LOBBY. THEY'LL BE ACCESSED DIRECTLY FROM COMMERCIAL SPACE FIVE. UH, IF THIS GETS DIVIDED INTO TWO SPACES, THEY, THEY'LL LIKELY BE A, A PUBLIC RESTROOM, UH, ON OR A RESTROOM ON EITHER SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL LOBBY WITH THE ENTRAN ENTRIES OFF OF, UH, THE COMMERCIAL SPACE DIRECTLY AND NOT HAVE, NOT BE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. UM, SO SOME, IT'S STILL IN, IN FLUX, UH, AND NOT FINALIZED YET. WE ALSO HAVE A, A RESTROOM HERE JUST OFF THE GYM THAT WOULD BE USED BY MANAGEMENT AND, AND GYM USERS AS WELL, WHICH WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY A PRIVATE RESTROOM. UH, FOR THE, THE BIKE PARKING BELOW GRADE, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT, UH, POINT. AND, AND WE ACTUALLY WERE STUDYING ELEVATOR SIZING, CAB SIZING, UH, LOCATING BIKES IN THE ELEVATORS. AND WE DID A, OUR ARCHITECT DID A VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY DETAILED STUDY LAST NIGHT THAT WE WERE REVIEWING AND WE'RE, WE'RE OVERSIZING THE ELEVATOR CAB IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. ONE OF THESE ELEVATORS IS GONNA BE THE LARGEST PASSENGER ELEVATOR, UH, DESIGN OR, OR PRODUCED BY, WE'RE LOOKING AT A KNE ELEVATOR TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, YOU KNOW, BIKE PARK BIKES THAT ARE LARGER THAN, UH, TYPICAL BIKES AND A LARGER ELEVATOR THAN WHAT ZONING REQUIRES TO MAKE ACCESS INTO THE, THE BASEMENT BIKE PARKING, UH, EASIER BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF BIKES THAT NEED TO GO UP AND DOWN THE ELEVATOR. SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE, I THINK UNDERSTOOD YOUR POINT ABOUT THE HYDRAULIC LIFT. UH, THERE ARE SOME BIKE STACKERS OUT THERE THAT, UM, ARE HYDRAULIC ASSISTS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE OH, YES, TWO OR THREE BIKES IN THE SPACE THAT CURRENTLY ONLY HOUSES ONE OR TWO. YEAH, THAT WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE PRODUCTS AND WE REALLY, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GREAT. THEY, THEY, I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT ONE, THAT SLIDE, THEY SLIDE LEFT TO RIGHT, THEY, THEY, UH, STACK VERTICALLY, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT, WHICH IS WHY WE STAYED AWAY FROM THEM. UM, BUT IT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING WE, WE LOOK INTO. IT WOULD DEFINITELY SAVE A LOT OF SPACE. AND, UM, CAN I JUST ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE DESIGNED A LOT OF BIKE ROOMS OVER THE YEARS, AND IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVEN'T ENCLOSED THE BIKE ROOM. UM, THIS IS IN PART BECAUSE WE CONSIDER IT PART OF AN AMENITY. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY ENJOY THE WHOLE WORLD OF BIKES AND BIKE REPAIR AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO WITH, WITH SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS DESIGN, WE HOPE TO, TO MAKE IT PART OF AN AMENITY PACKAGE AS WELL. I KNOW IT SOUNDS STRANGE, BUT, UM, IN FACT, ADAM HERE PROBABLY HAS ABOUT FIVE BITES, AND A LOT OF TIMES HE CALLS ME FROM HIS BIKE WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING DESIGN. SO , I'M GONNA TAKE THE LEAD FROM HIM ON THIS . OKAY. ALL RIGHT, DAN, IS THAT IT FOR NOW? GREAT, THANK YOU, TED. YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, I REALLY JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS, I AM CONFUSED, UH, WHETHER, UH, THE PROPONENTS HAVE ACTUALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ABUTTER WHO SPOKE THIS EVENING, UH, OR WITH OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ABUTTING [01:20:01] PROPERTY. UM, AND YOU CAN ANSWER THAT LATER AND, BUT, BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS WITH THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER AND ARRAY OF CONDENSERS ON THE ROOF, AND WONDERING IF THERE IS SOME ALTERNATIVE OR SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING, I GUESS, 71 INDIVIDUAL CONDENSERS. AND IF YOU ARE COMMITTED TO THAT NUMBER OF CONDENSERS, IF THERE IS NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE, UM, CON, UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED SCREENING THEM? UH, I, I KNOW IT'S A TIGHT SPACE AND, UH, UH, BE INTERESTED IN SEEING, UH, FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION, UH, VIEWS FROM VARIOUS LOCATIONS ON OTHER, UH, ACROSS MASS AVE AND ACROSS LINEAN STREET. SO WE WILL REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, UH, FOR, UH, PEDESTRIANS, UH, WHEN THEY WALK BY THE BUILDING OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BUILDING, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE ROOF. UM, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. UH, YES, WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE ABUTTER. WE, WE MET, UH, MR. BENTLEY ON SITE AT HIS, AT HIS, UH, PROPERTY. WE, WE WALKED ONTO HIS PROPERTY, WE WALKED ACROSS MASS AVE LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT VIEWS. WE WALKED UP AND DOWN MASS AVE, AND HE HAD SOME REALLY GREAT SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN, UH, OPEN UP THIS CORNER AND, AND REALLY ACTIVATE THE CORNER RETAIL SPACE MORE SO THAN WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THIS DESIGN. AND WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON, UH, CREATING A, A NEW DESIGN TO TAKE HIS SUGGESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GREAT SUGGESTIONS. SO WE, WE DID HAVE A MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE STAY IN CONTACT ABOUT INCORPORATING THOSE DESIGNS, AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE IN THE NEXT, THE NEXT MEETING. UM, THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING TO, FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW, UH, THE NUMBER OF CONDENSERS IS, IS A GREAT POINT. AND WE'RE, WE, WE HAVE A, I THINK WE'VE FOUND A, A GOOD SOLUTION. UH, WE, THERE'S A, A VERY INTERESTING PRODUCT OUT OF ITALY, UH, CALLED THE, THESE ACA, UM, HEAT PUMP, UH, AIR SOURCE HEAT PUMP, UH, HEATING AND COOLING UNITS. SO A LOT OF THESE U THE, THE, THE UNITS ARE SELF-CONTAINED AND IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE, UH, LIKELY ABOUT 50 CONDENSERS FROM THE ROOF. UH, RIGHT NOW I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT 80 CONDENSERS, BECAUSE THERE'S COMMERCIAL SPACE CONDENSERS AS WELL. SO WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE ABOUT 50 OF THEM, UM, AND, AND BRING THOSE REMAINING CONDENSERS MORE TOWARDS THE CENTER OF THE ROOF AND, AND AWAY FROM THE PERIMETER. SO THERE'LL BE, UH, FURTHER SCREENED AND THEN LIKELY SLIGHTLY INCREASE THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE PARAPETS IF NEEDED TO, TO BLOCK THE CONDENSERS FROM THE VIEWS DOWN THE, DOWN THE STREET. AND WE'LL HAVE VIEWS OF THOSE FOR THE, THE NEXT MEETING, UM, SO THEY CAN BE STUDIED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CAROLYN. THANK YOU. UM, YOU ANSWERED MY FIRST QUESTION TO SOME DEGREE DURING THE PRESENTATION, OR, UH, PETER QUINN DID. UM, BUT I WAS GOING TO QUESTION AND COMMENT ON THE, THE BRIGHT WHITE, THE ARCTIC WHITE, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE CONTEXT PHOTOS AND THE WARMTH AND THE COLOR OF THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS. TO DIEGO'S POINT, WELL, I MAY BE CO-OPTING DIEGO'S POINT, UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO SIGNAGE, WARMING UP THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE CREATING ACTIVATION ALONG IAN, BUT WARMING UP THAT PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE AND MAKING IT VISUALLY INTERESTING UNDER WHAT LOOKS LIKE A KIND OF DARK GRAY SPACE UNDER A CANTILEVER, UM, FEELS LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A MORE WELCOMING SPACE THERE. UM, IN TERMS OF THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE REMAINING, THE, I'M CURIOUS ON THE FIRST ONE ABOUT THE THREE BEDROOM, THREE BATH, I'M USED TO SEEING THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHS, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT WILL BE MOSTLY ROOMMATES INSTEAD OF FAMILIES, OR IF YOU HAVE THOUGHT MUCH ABOUT THAT OTHER THAN THAT YOU THINK THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING THREE BATHROOMS IN THE THREE BEDROOMS. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS ON THE ROOFTOP, AND THIS MAY BE MORE FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, UM, BUT PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE ATMOSPHERE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOW UNDER TWO FEET OF ARCTIC SNOW, UM, IT, IT FEELS LIKE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU'RE CUTTING PEOPLE OFF FROM GREEN SPACE, AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S NOT SOME WAY TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT GREENERY ONTO THE COMMON ROOF DECK, ASSUMING WE CAN'T HAVE LITTLE, A LITTLE WALKING PATH [01:25:01] ALONG THE ROOF, THE GREEN ROOF SPACE. I KNOW YOU'VE GOTTA KEEP YOUR PERCENTAGES, UM, BUT I, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME WAY TO BRING SOME OF THAT WARMTH AND GREENERY ONTO THE, THE COMMON ROOF DECK AND, AND MAKE THAT MORE THAN JUST KIND OF TABLES AND CHAIRS. UM, BUT, BUT BRING WE ALL BENEFIT, I THINK, FROM, FROM GREEN SPACE AND HAVING CLOSE ACCESS TO GREENERY. AND I GUESS THAT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT. SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. KATI, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THE, THE ROOF DECK, UH, QUESTION AND I CAN TAKE THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER TWO AFTERWARDS. YEAH, I, I THINK THE WAY I WAS ENVISIONING THIS IS THERE, IT WOULD REALLY SORT OF LIKE A BLANK SLATE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE HERE TO OCCUPY AND POPULATE WITH SMALL, YOU KNOW, UM, PLANTERS AND THINGS THAT THEY WOULD WANNA PLACE UP THERE. THE, THE GREEN ROOF ITSELF IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN TRAVERSE AND IT, IT DOESN'T DO WELL FOR WITH FOOT TRAFFIC. I MEAN, YOU CAN WALK ON IT FOR MAINTENANCE TO JUST GET, GET SOMEWHERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT, PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING BALL ON IT OR, YOU KNOW, REGULARLY HANGING AROUND ON IT. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A GUARDRAIL AROUND THE DECK ITSELF. BUT I THINK THE DECK IN WITHIN THAT DECK SPACE COULD HAVE, UM, A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WE JUST THREW A COUPLE TABLES AND CHAIRS ON THERE TO SHOW THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT. IT COULD HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS. IT COULD HAVE A HAMMOCK ON ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, STANDS, INDEPENDENT STANDS, UM, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S NOTHING KEEPING PEOPLE FROM DOING THAT. OF COURSE, WE WOULDN'T WANNA OVER, YOU KNOW, PUT ANYTHING OVERLY HEAVY UP THERE. UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, TWO FEET OF SNOW IS QUITE HEAVY , SO I'M SURE IT'LL, UH, BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HANGING OUT AND SUB PLANTERS AND A LOT MORE DIVERSE FURNISHINGS THAN WHAT WE SHOW. BUT THAT'S REALLY FOR THEM TO DECIDE, I THINK IN THE FUTURE. AND ABSOLUTELY MORE GREENERY PEOPLE WILL DO THAT, I THINK NATURALLY. THANK YOU, KATYA. UM, JUST RESPONDING TO THE, THE SPACE UNDER THE CANTILEVER AND THE OVERALL FACADE AND, AND THE STARK WHITE COLORS. UH, WE REALLY LIKE THIS MATERIAL SARAH CLA THAT PETER MENTIONED. AND WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE, THE, THE REP, UM, ON THE, THE NEW COLOR PALETTE. AS YOU ALSO MENTIONED, CURRENTLY THERE'S ONLY ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT COLORS IN, IN EACH PRODUCT LINE, AND THEY'RE EXPANDING THIS GREATLY WITH ABOUT 400 COLORS. AND THAT'S, UH, WE'RE HOPEFULLY GONNA HAVE THAT COLOR PALETTE VERY SOON. WE, WE EMAIL PRETTY MUCH WEEKLY TO TRY TO, UH, FIND OUT WHEN IT'S COMING BECAUSE WE WANT TO CHOOSE COLORS. BUT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT HERE YET. UH, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A STARK WHITE BUILDING. WE WANT IT TO BE A, A MUCH WARMER, WARMER TONES. UH, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S NOT A GREAT ANSWER. WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE PALETTE JUST YET, AND WE'RE HOPING, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE, WE WILL, AND WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME COLORS THAT WE'D LIKE TO UTILIZE, UH, IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION SET. UH, UNDERNEATH THIS, THIS CANOPY IS SHOWN AS, AS OPEN RIGHT NOW ON IN THESE PLANS, BUT WE, WE PLAN ON HAVING IT BE A, A, A CLOSED CANOPY TO PROTECT PEOPLE UNDERNEATH FROM THE WEATHER AND ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE CANOPY, WE WANNA HAVE A WOOD GRAIN, UH, MATERIAL WITH, WITH LIGHTING UNDERNEATH IT TO, TO PROVIDE SOME MORE WARMTH. THE, THE UNIT SIZING, THE, THE THREE BED, THREE BATH UNITS, WE REALLY, WE, WE SHOWED IN, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SHOWN IN THIS PLAN, BUT IT WAS SHOWN IN SOME EARLIER PLANS BECAUSE THE UNIT'S LARGE AND, AND WE COULD, SO WE, WE SHOWED, WE HAVE A, A VERY, KIND OF NICELY LAID OUT THREE BED, THREE BATH UNIT AS A, IT HAD A, A LIVING ROOM, A KITCHEN, AND IT ACTUALLY HAD AN AUXILIARY, UH, STUDY ROOM AS WELL. UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE STILL STUDYING ALL OF THESE INTERIOR LAYOUTS AND THEY'RE NOT, UH, THEY'RE NOT FINALIZED JUST YET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SURE IF IT'S GONNA REMAIN A, A THREE BED, THREE BATH OR, OR GO TO A, A THREE BED, TWO BATH, OR EVEN A, A THREE BED, TWO AND A HALF BATH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU CAROLYN. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. OH, ASHLEY, YOU'VE GOT A FOLLOW UP. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR, JUST QUICK QUESTION. UM, AND THE PROPONENT MAY NOT KNOW THIS YET OR, UM, WANNA DISCLOSE THIS YET, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS THE INTENT FOR THIS TO BE, UM, A RENTAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OR OWNERSHIP OR TBD? THANK YOU. THE INTENSE A RENTAL RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. GREAT, THANK YOU. I HAVE A, A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, I'M, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THE CURB CUT, UM, AT THE, AT THE LOADING DOCK. IS THAT THE EXISTING CURB CUT OR DO I, AM I LED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A [01:30:01] KIND OF CONTINUOUS CURB CUT ON LINEAN STREET AS IT EXISTS TODAY? UH, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE EXISTING CURB CUT. LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE A, OKAY. THE EXISTING SITE PLAN IN HERE, I THINK IT'S IN THE BASE SET. IT'S THE OTHER SET, ADAM, I THINK IT'S TOWARDS THE BEGINNING THERE, ADAM. OKAY. IT'S NOT A TRICK QUESTION IF IT'S A NEW, NEW CURB CUT. I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, QUESTIONS RAISED BY CDDI KNOW ABOUT THE DIMENSION OF IT, AND I ASSUMED THAT FOR SOME REASON, THAT POTENTIALLY YOU WERE LOCKED INTO AN EXISTING A CURB CUT. BUT, UM, IS IT ON? DOES ANYONE YEAH, I'M SORRY. IT IS IN THE BACKUP. IT'S THE SECOND. YEAH, SORRY, SORRY, YOU THE BEGINNING OF THE BACKUP. APOLOGIES. OKAY, HERE IT IS. THAT'S IT. YEAH. SO THE EXISTING CURB CUT IS, IT LOOKS TO BE GREATER THAN 20 FEET, BUT WE'RE, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE MOVED SLIGHTLY, SO IT'S GONNA BE MOVED TO THE WEST. YEAH. AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A CURB OPENING TO GET OUT OF THIS. WHERE IS THE CURB OPENING? ALMOST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S SHOWN HERE. ODD, BUT THERE'S A CURB OPENING AT THE INTERSECTION OF LE AND MASS SOUTH I SEE. FOR VEHICLES TO EXIT AND IT REAL NO INTEREST. IT, IT'S RIGHT HERE IN THE CORNER. DO YOU SEE THAT? BETWEEN 37.58 AND 37.58? THAT'S WHERE IT IS. YEAH, IT'S RIGHT INTO THE INTERSECTION. BUT YOU'RE ABANDONING THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T NEED THAT. SO, BUT YOU'RE NOT LOCK, YOU'RE NOT LOCKING YOURSELF INTO THE EXISTING CURB CUT TO THE WEST OF THAT ONE THEN. SO YOU, YOU'LL BE, UH, POSITIONING THAT AND SIZING THAT MORE PRECISELY, UH, AS IT RELATES TO YOUR LOADING TALK DOOR. THAT'S A QUESTION. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. UM, MY OTHER QUESTION, I GUESS WAS, UM, PARTIALLY POSED IN THE, UM, IN THE QUESTIONS FROM, UH, FROM, UH, THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE BALCONY. SO THERE'LL BE SOME KIND OF DIVIDER BETWEEN WHICH IS NOT SHOWN IN THE PLAN. THE, UH, BALCONIES WON'T BE CONTINUOUS, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA BE SOME, UH, A DEMISING SYSTEM ON THE RAILING OR, OR SOMETHING, A, A WALL, HALF WALL OR SOMETHING TO DIVIDE UP THOSE BALCONIES? OR ARE THEY TRULY, UH, SOCIALIST AND OPEN? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I, I'D, I'D ACTUALLY REALLY APPRECIATE SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S BEST. I DON'T WANT FIVE FOOT, UH, DIVIDERS THAT ARE, OR SIX FOOT TALL DIVIDERS REALLY DIVIDING PEOPLE. I THINK THEY'RE, IT'S NOT A NICE LOOK FROM THE STREET. YEAH. UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETELY OPEN WHERE EITHER, WHERE SOMEONE COULD WALK DOWN THOSE WAY AND LOOK IN SOMEONE ELSE'S WELL UNIT. WELL GET SOME ADVICE, UH, FROM YOUR DESIGN TEAM. AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM SHOWN BOTH IN THE RENDERINGS AND IN THE ELEVATIONS FOR NEXT TIME. 'CAUSE I THINK IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, UH, TO THE ARCHITECTURE IF YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF FINS STICKING OUT ON THOSE BALCONIES. SO, DEFINITELY. UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION. MY, MY LAST, UH, QUESTION, IT RELATES TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION, UM, WHERE THERE ARE SOME, UH, THEY LOOK LIKE SHADES, UH, ON SOME OF THE WINDOWS, BUT ALSO NOT ON SOME OF THE OTHER WINDOWS. AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF THAT. UH, I THINK THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE, BUT OBVIOUSLY I WOULD WANT YOU TO TALK TO MR. BENTLEY ABOUT THAT. BUT, UM, UH, I WONDER IF THAT DEVICE COULD BE USED ELSEWHERE, RIGHT? THAT YOU SEE THEM THERE. THERE'S, UH, UH, IT ADDS A PLAYFUL DIMENSION TO THE BUILDING, BUT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ARCHITECT'S INTENT THERE WAS. WHAT'S THE LOGIC? IT'S, IT IS PRIMARILY A DECORATIVE. OKAY. SO THAT'S A DEVICE THAT COULD BE USED ELSEWHERE TOO, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. TO ADD SOME TEXTURE. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE SHADOW THAT THAT'S GONNA MAKE AND THE DELIGHT THAT IT OFFERS. AND I THINK IT'S A DEVICE THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER LOOKING AT OTHER, OTHER SURFACES. THE BUILDING FOR, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, PRACTICALLY YOU CAN SEE THE SHADOWS PROJECTED IN THE, IN THE RENDERING HERE. THEY PROBABLY OFFER SOME, UM, SOME SHADE, SOME, YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, IT, IT'S A COMBINATION OF DECORATIVE ELEMENT 'CAUSE IT'S, AND, AND A AND A SUNSHADE. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UH, A PURE SHA SHADING DEVICE. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIMITED TO THE WIDTH OF THE WINDOW. SO. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT SMALLER SCALE, MR. QUINN. UH, AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY IN WHICH YOU MIGHT CHOOSE TO DEPLOY THAT ON THE, ON THE MASS HALF SIDE OR THE OTHER, OTHER ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING. THOSE ARE MY, UH, PARTICULAR QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. I HAVE A BUNCH OF COMMENTS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL TURN TO COMMENTS [01:35:01] IN OUR NEXT SECTION HERE. UH, ANY FURTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? I SEE NO HANDS RAISED, SO I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO, UH, COMMENTS, UH, ON ON OUR IMPRESSIONS. IMPRESSIONS AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE NEXT HEARING, DIEGO? SURE. I'LL GO FIRST. UM, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE MATERIALS AND THE PRESENTATION. I THINK IT WAS REALLY, UH, PLEASANT TO, TO SEE IT AND JUST HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT THAT I LIKE THE AESTHETIC. UM, IT'S KIND OF SURPRISED, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING FOR WARMER COLORS, BUT, UM, THE WHITE KIND OF GREW ON ME WITH TIME. UH, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IT MIGHT SORT OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LOOK AWAY AND LOOK DOWN THE STREET IN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, SEE OTHER BUILDINGS. BUT, UM, I'M NOT TOO PARTICULAR ABOUT THE COLORS PER SE. UM, I THINK IT'S AWESOME THAT YOU HAVE CARGO BIKE STORAGE. I THINK I'VE, I'VE SEEN SO MANY PROJECTS AND NONE OF THEM HAVE HAD IT. AND I HAVE A CARGO BIKE, SO IT'S ALWAYS LIKE SOMETHING THAT I ASK FOR. AND, AND THEN YOU EVEN HAVE AN ELEVATOR THAT'S GONNA ACCOMMODATE CARGO BIKES. THAT'S REALLY COOL. UM, SO HOPE, HOPEFULLY THAT STAYS THERE, REMAINS. IT'S COOL. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A GYM. I'M GONNA ADVOCATE AGAIN FOR THE, FOR A COMMUNAL SPACE, JUST SO THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRAMMING, LIKE A TABLE OR A SEATING, SEATING ENVIRONMENT. AND I THINK UPSTAIRS, NEAR, UH, NEXT TO THE COMMON DECK, I THINK WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT SORT OF, UM, INDOOR OUTDOOR SPACE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DEPENDENT ON WHETHER YOU CAN ENJOY BOTH. IT'S JUST ONE SORT OF, UM, PLACE FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS. UM, I I, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE MASS MASS HAVE PLANNING STUDY WAS LOOKED AT. UM, AND I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A SECTION ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC ART AND THERE'S LIKE, THIS INTERSECTION IS LIKE HIGHLIGHTED. THAT'S HUGE. UM, SO I, I'D BE CURIOUS IF, IF YOU COULD SORT OF LOOK AT THAT AND, AND PERHAPS TIE THAT IN. 'CAUSE IF, IF YOU HAVE THIS WHITE AND BLACK, UH, YOU COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF COLOR SPLASH IN THE MIDDLE THAT MAKES THE BUILDING LIKE POP AT THAT CORNER OR SOMETHING. UM, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SIGNAGE THERE AND YOU HAVE LIKE A, A MARQUEE ENTRANCE TO A COMMERCIAL SPACE. BUT, UM, MAYBE SOMETHING, UH, MORE, MORE, MORE FUN FOR THE PUBLIC IS, IS, IS IS GOOD TO HAVE THERE. UM, I THINK I HAVE, YEAH, THE, THE ENTRANCE TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, MARY ECKER ISS NOT HERE, BUT I THINK SHE WOULD SORT OF REALLY, UH, UM, SPEAK BETTER THAN I I CAN ON THAT, BUT I, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE LIKE AN EDGE THAT SEPARATES THE, THE SIDEWALK AND THAT RESIDENTIAL SPACE AS WELL AS SORT OF MAKING THAT SPACE MORE WARM AND INVITING FOR PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT. AND, UM, YEAH, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A TABLE OF CHAIRS THERE. UM, WE'VE SEEN SOME DESIGNS THAT, THAT HAVE LIKE AN EDGE SORT OF CONDITION, LIKE A PLANTER OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE SEPARATED FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, SIDEWALK. SO SOME CONSIDERATIONS TO THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE GOOD, I THINK. AND THEN LASTLY, UM, I THINK A PUBLIC COMMENT BROUGHT UP THIS IDEA OF TRANSIENT HOUSING. AND, UM, I, I'LL JUST SPEAK FOR MYSELF ON THAT. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE HOUSING. UM, I, I MOVED TO CAMBRIDGE AND I KIND OF LIVED IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WITH TRANSIENT HOUSING AND I SORT OF MOVED THROUGH THE LEVELS OF, OF CAMBRIDGE HOUSING. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A, A DIVERSITY OF TYPES OF HOUSING. UM, SO I THINK IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT SO I CAN SORT OF SEE, UH, MY EXPERIENCE IN CAMBRIDGE THROUGH THE BUILDING. AND I THINK IT'S REALLY AWESOME TO SEE THAT IN A, IN A PROJECT. I CAN SEE THE STUDIO WHERE I FIRST MOVED, AND THEN I CAN SEE THE BIGGER UNIT AS OF MY FAMILY GROUP HERE. AND THEN I HAVE THE CARGO BIKE AND THEN THE, IT'S JUST, IT'S GREAT. SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT. UM, YEAH. UH, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. GREAT, ASHLEY. THANK YOU. I, I'LL JUST SAY, SO THE FIRST THING I NOTICED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS, UM, AND WHICH IS WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT THE PROJECT, IS, UH, THE GENEROUS UNIT SIZES. I'VE SEEN SO MANY PROJECTS RECENTLY, MAYBE OUTSIDE OF CAMBRIDGE THAT, UM, VER YOU KNOW, UNIT SIZES THAT ARE HALF OF TWO THIRDS OF THIS, SIZES OF THESE. AND SO APPRECIATE THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO PUT IN SOME SPACIOUS UNITS. UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE UNITS. I GREW UP, SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE IN A UNIT THAT'S 36 FEET LONG WITH UNITS ON OR WINDOWS ON ONE SIDE. AND, UM, I THINK IF IT'S WELL DONE, YOU CAN, IT CAN STILL FEEL PRETTY BRIGHT. UM, AND SPEAKING OF UNIT SIZES, I ACTUALLY ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THE VARIETY OF SIZES OF THE COMMERCIAL UNITS. THERE'S A LARGER CORNER UNIT, AND THEN THERE'S TWO PRETTY SMALL COMMERCIAL, UH, COMMERCIAL UNITS, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT FOR THIS SECTION OF MASS AVE. THERE'S SO MANY LOVELY, [01:40:01] UH, SMALL RETAIL STORES IN THIS SECTION, AND I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD IN A FEW MORE. UM, YEAH, COMMERCIAL, HOPEFULLY TENANTS THAT CAN, UH, REALLY LIVEN MASS AV, WHICH IS PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THE MASS AV STUDY. SO, UM, EXCITED TO SEE THAT. UM, I, YEAH, I, I, I WAS WONDERING WHY THE ROOF DECK COULDN'T BE LARGER, BUT AFTER, UM, THE PROPONENT'S EXPLANATION, UH, THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE, IF THERE IS A WAY TO, UM, IF THE CONDENSERS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, COULD BE FEWER OR SMALLER, MAYBE THERE IS MORE SPACE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTS, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, ADDING LITTLE MORE GREEN, UM, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE PLEASING FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND, UM, I THINK MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS KNOW, BUT I LOVE SEEING BALCONIES, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO THINK, YEAH, THEY WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THEY'LL BE SEPARATED OR JUST SHARED BETWEEN MULTIPLE UNITS, BUT I THINK BALCONIES ARE GREAT. PEOPLE USE THEM, EVEN IF IT'S LIMITED TIMES OF THE YEARS. BUT, UM, THEN IT JUST VISUALLY ADDS SOME INTEREST TO, UM, WHAT IS OTHERWISE A BOXIER, UH, STRUCTURE. UM, AND SO I THINK A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE NEXT TIME, UM, BIG ONE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CONDENSERS CAN BE REDUCED AND IF NOT, WHAT TYPE OF SCREENING, UM, WE CAN HAVE ON THE ROOFTOP. UM, ALSO, I, I SAW THE DEVELOPMENT, THE CHANGES IN YOUR PLANS OVER, I THINK THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS LINE. UM, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE PERMEABLE AREA AROUND THE, UH, BOTH LINEAN AND THE OTHER. I THINK IT WOULD BE A MASS AVE NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORS, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE, BUT I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT WIDER, OR IF IN CERTAIN SECTIONS, IF IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE WHOLE STRIP TO MAKE IT WIDER, IF IT'S A SMALLER SECTIONS THAT, UM, CAN BE A LITTLE LARGER SO THAT THERE COULD BE USABLE OPEN SPACE, I THINK THAT'D BE FUN TO LOOK AT. AND JUST A GREAT ADDED AMENITY TO THE RESIDENTS. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, ALSO JUST MORE CLARITY ABOUT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT, OR HOW THE, UH, DROP OFF WOULD WORK FOR BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL UNITS. UM, LIKE WHAT, IS THERE A WAY TO GET ONE OR TWO PARKING SPACES FOR, WHETHER IT'S ON THE STREET OR, UM, YEAH, DESIGNATED, UH, FOR DROP OFF. 'CAUSE UH, IT IS A FAIR NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, TED. WELL, THANK YOU. UM, WELL, FIRST I WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT SOMETHING THAT DIEGO SAID, AND I'M GLAD HE RAISED IT, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS RAISED BY PUBLIC COMMENTS. AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, IT HAS BEEN THE BOARD'S POSITION THAT WE ARE NOT DESIGNING FOR OR DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN CAMBRIDGE. THAT WHETHER SOMEBODY IS AN OWNER OR A TENANT OR A STUDENT, UH, THAT WE ARE REPRESENTING EVERYBODY. AND I DON'T THINK WE GET INTO THE QUESTION OF WHO'S GOING TO RESIDE IN THE UNITS WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF OUR ADVOCATING FOR MORE FAMILY SIZED UNITS SO THAT FAMILIES CAN STAY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK AS, AS DIEGO INDICATED, PEOPLE COME HERE AS STUDENTS, THEY LIKE LIVING HERE. THEY BE, YOU KNOW, BECOME RESIDENTS AND MAYBE AS THEY EXPAND THEIR FAMILY, THEY WANT LARGER AND LARGER SPACES. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL GREAT AND THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR EVERYBODY. UH, HAVING SAID THAT, I'VE ALL, I REALLY LIKE THE, UH, THE, THE PROPOSAL. UH, I WOULD BE EQUALLY HAPPY IF IT WERE TALLER AND THAT THERE WERE MORE UNITS THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. I MEAN, 70 ONE'S A NICE NUMBER, BUT I WOULDN'T MIND IT IF IT WAS TALLER. IT'S A PLACE ON MASS [01:45:01] AVE, UH, THAT THE MASS A CORRIDOR WAS DESIGNED FOR. AND, UM, JUST BECAUSE HISTORICALLY THERE'D BEEN FIVE AND SIX UNITS, FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS, UH, THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT SHOULDN'T GO UP TO BE EVEN TALLER. UM, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE A MINORITY OF ONE IN SAYING THAT I REALLY RATHER LIKE THE CREAM AND CHARRO COLOR SCHEME. UH, I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE USUAL BRICK COLOR SCHEME THAT WE SEE. AND ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA, THERE'S SOME ORANGE BRICK, THERE'S SOME YELLOW BRICK, THERE ARE OTHER COLORS. AND, UM, I, I WOULD BE KIND OF SADDENED IF IT BECAME SO MUTED, MUTED, UH, THAT WE LOST SOME INDIVIDUALITY OF THE BUILDING. UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT SO MANY THINGS ARE STILL IN FLUX AND, UH, SO MANY RESPONSES WERE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS OR WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, UH, HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE BEEN RESOLVED AND THE, THE, THE, UH, REPRESENTATIONS WILL SHOW WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY HOPING TO DO AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. UH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, UH, CONDENSERS AND THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN ELIMINATE OR, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS, UH, 50 OF THEM IS, IS GREAT. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. UM, IF YOU HAD AN ACTUAL MODEL, UH, THAT WOULD REALLY BE, UH, A, A BENEFIT FOR US TO SEE WHERE IT SITS, HOW IT RELATES TO THE ABUTTING HISTORICAL PROPERTY, HOW IT RELATES TO LINEAN STREET AND TO MASS AVE AND UH, MODEL WOULD BE GREAT. UH, BUT CERTAINLY IN THE ABSENCE OF A MODEL, I CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE OTHER PERSPECTIVES DOWN LINEAN AND MASS FROM A DISTANCE, SO WE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, UH, UH, WILL BE, HOW IT WILL BE SITTING IN THE ENVIRONMENT. UH, AND I GUESS THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE, UM, UH, I, I KNOW IT HAS BECOME, UM, COMMON FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE A BATHROOM FOR EVERY BEDROOM. UM, I'VE NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD THAT, AND I THINK IT'S OVERKILL. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN HAVING THREE BEDROOM, THREE BATH, UH, GOING DOWN TO TWO BATHS OR TWO AND A HALF BATHS AND LARGER SPACE, LARGER LIVING SPACE, UH, IS BENEFICIAL. I DO AGREE WITH ASHLEY THAT THEY ARE VERY GENEROUS SIZED UNITS AND, UH, BEING ABOUT 500 SQUARE FEET IS, IS REALLY QUITE LARGE FOR A STUDIO. UM, SO I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, REALLY PRETTY PLEASED WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SHOWN US, UH, BUT REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO DEVELOP AND WHAT THE NEXT, UH, ITERATION OF THE BUILDING WILL BE. THANK YOU, TED. UH, DAN, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO, UM, I'M ACTUALLY REMINDED THAT, UH, FROM TED OF AN, AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION. I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK FROM, FROM DEVELOPER, UM, SIDE. UM, SO MR. SIEGEL, SO THIS OBVIOUSLY IS POSSIBLE TO GO HIGHER, EITHER EIGHT STORIES OR 12. UM, I'M GONNA GO ON A LIMB AND ASSUME THAT IT'S ECONOMICS. UM, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME COMMENTS AND, AND DISCUSSIONS HERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOES IT GO ABOVE EIGHT? DOES IT GO TO 12? UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY, VERY PRO-HOUSING. UM, BUT THE, UM, UM, UM, SINCE YOU'RE HERE PRESENTING IN FRONT OF US, IT'S NOT EXACTLY GERMANE TO THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE GIVING US, BUT IT'S, IT'S SUPER HELPFUL FOR, UM, FOR US AS A BOARD TO KIND OF HEAR HOW YOU APPROACH THIS FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND HOW THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE SAID, HEY, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE 80, 90, A HUNDRED UNITS HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AND ROOFTOP CONDENSERS AND A LOT MORE PIECES, BUT, UM, IS IT FUNDAMENTALLY COST PER UNIT THAT DRIVES THIS? UM, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO SEE, UM, MORE HOUSING DEVELOPED AS A RESULT OF A 12 STORY, UM, BUMP ALONG MASS AVE. UM, WE'LL HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH SIZE AND SCALE AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER ISSUES. BUT, UM, IT, IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO HEAR FROM A PROPONENT, UM, WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS. [01:50:01] I DO HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS, BUT THAT, THAT QUESTION, UM, I THINK IS PARTICULARLY GERMANE AS WE'RE HOPING TO SEE, UM, SOME FRUITION OF, OF MORE HOUSING. SHOULD I RESPOND TO THAT NOW? YES. OKAY. OR YOU COULD RESPOND YEAH, NEXT TIME. UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S A QUICK ANSWER TO, I MEAN, WE, WE DID, WE DID LOOK AT IT. WE, WE, UH, WHEN THE, WHEN THE ZONING WAS FIRST BEING PROPOSED, WE, UH, WE INSTRUCTED OUR, OUR, OUR ARCHITECTS TO DO A, A BRIEF FEASIBILITY ON IT. UH, WE TALKED TO A FEW CONSTRUCTION FIRMS THAT HAD, UH, RECENTLY BUILT 11 AND 12 STORY BUILDINGS AND OTHER, OTHER CITIES. UH, THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOME VERY GOOD COST DATA THAT WE EVALUATED. WE, WE RAN IT THROUGH OUR PROFORMA. UM, IT REALLY, THE, THE, ON IT, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE WITH ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL COST OF THE FRAMING, THE HIGH RISE CODE GOING TO ALL COPPER CAST IRON PLUMBING, PRESSURIZED STAIRWELLS. THERE, THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S A LOT OF INTERIOR SPACE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UH, DEVOTED TO UNITS DEVOTED TO MORE CIRCULATION AND AREAS OF REFUGE. UH, IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THERE. AND IT'S THE, THE RETURN WE USE A RETURN ON COST METRIC IS ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY LOWER THE RETURN. AND WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL RISK, THE SPECIAL PERMIT, UM, WE DIDN'T WANNA PROCEED. I APPRECIATE THAT CANDID ANSWER. AND I'M SORRY TO MAYBE PUT YOU ON THE SPOT TO SPEAK FOR, UH, NO, IT'S FINE. FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, UM, UM, IT HELPS TO UNDER UNDERSTAND, UH, THE ECONOMICS AND, YOU KNOW, IT FALLS, UH, UNLESS IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE ON, ON PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO, UM, TO MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD. SO, UM, UM, SO THANK YOU. AND IN GENERAL, UM, I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. UM, I GUESS AS AN ARCHITECT, I, I ALWAYS HAVE COMMENTS AND, AND SO, UM, I TAKE THESE AS, AS, UM, UM, AS YOU MAY, UM, I PARTICULARLY LIKE THE, THE VERTICALITY, THE GANGED FOUR STORY WINDOWS. UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF DEPTH THERE, IF POSSIBLE. UM, PETER, I THINK THAT'S A, IT'S A REALLY ELEGANT WAY OF SORT OF, UM, KEEPING A TRIPARTITE SCHEME HERE. THE, THE, UH, THE BASE AND, AND RETAIL, UM, WITH MORE THAN ENOUGH, ENOUGH GLAZING, UH, AND A VARIETY OF, OF RETAIL SIZES AND SPACES, I THINK IS GREAT. UM, I THINK THAT THE, UH, THE SIX STORY, THE ATTIC LEVEL COULD USE SOME WORK. UM, I THINK A TALLER PARAPET MIGHT ALSO HELP HIDE, UH, SOME OF THE, UM, UH, MECHANICALS, UM, AS WELL AS GIVING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UH, MASS. AND PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE IT TO MAYBE FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE VERTICAL AND MAYBE A DIFFERENT COLOR, UH, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, GIVE IT AN ACCENT. UH, BUT GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, UH, YOU'VE DONE DONE WELL WITH, UH, THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE, OF THE SITE. UM, I DON'T LIKE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING WITH THE, THE ABUTTER. UM, IT, IT FEELS A LITTLE AWKWARD, UM, BOTH IN CHANGES OF MATERIAL, THE BASE AS YOU KIND OF ROUND THE CORNERS. UM, SO I, I THINK I HAVE THE NORTHWEST CORNER ALSO FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK AS YOU CHOOSE YOUR MATERIALS, UH, THAT'LL RESOLVE ITSELF. UH, THE ONLY OTHER PIECE REALLY, UM, I'M, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY FOND OF THESE BUMP OUTS. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND POTENTIAL BALCONY SPACE FROM THESE. BUT, UM, I'D PREFER PERSONALLY NOT TO HAVE BAYS ON THE MASS AB SIDE. I THINK THE BUILDING WOULD BE MORE ELEGANT AS A SIMPLE FACADE, UM, MAYBE WITH, UM, INDIVIDUAL BALCONIES AS THESE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, MUCH LIKE THE SUNSCREEN OR, OR PROTRUDING, UH, DEVICES THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SOUTH FACADE. UH, IT COULD GIVE, IT COULD ENLIVEN THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM, BUT, UM, I, I'D LEAVE THAT TO YOU. I, I REALLY AM NOT, UM, I, I THINK THAT THE, THOSE BUMP OUTS DON'T PARTICULARLY LEND, IT'S, UH, IT TO THE KIND OF ELEGANCE THAT IT WOULD BE THERE WITHOUT IT. UM, THE, UM, UM, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT MATERIALS ON THAT NORTHWEST SIDE, I THINK MAYBE A CHANGE IN MATERIAL OR COLOR COULD HELP ACCENT THAT SORT OF STEPPING DOWN OR REFLECTION TO THE C ONE DISTRICT AND THE RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS, UH, FUNNY LITTLE GARDEN APARTMENT DOWN IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. AND I WONDER, GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS OF GLAZING, AND QUITE HONESTLY, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF OPEN SPACE, COULD YOU STEP THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT? UM, YOU'VE GOTTA CHANGE IN, IN BUILDING TYPE. YOU'VE GOT A CONCRETE DECK, POTENTIALLY A CANTILEVER OR EVEN A, A COLUMN AT THE CORNER. IF [01:55:01] YOU COULD GIVE UP SOME INTERIOR SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THAT UNIT, IT MIGHT BENEFIT FROM HAVING A 10 FOOT PATIO YARD SPACE, UM, WHERE THAT AREA IS OTHERWISE NOT PARTICULARLY USABLE. A FIVE FOOT GREEN STRIP IS MAYBE OKAY TO LOOK OUT A WINDOW AT, BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF GLAZING AND A DOOR OUT MIGHT, UH, IT MIGHT ENLIVEN IT. AND THE VERY LAST THING, AND, UM, UH, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A DIFFICULT PIECE, BUT THE, UM, UM, APPRECIATE THE LANDSCAPE PAVING, PARTICULARLY THE PERMEABLE PAVERS. UM, IT'S ALWAYS AN AWKWARD TRANSITION BETWEEN THAT AND OUR CITY CONCRETE. SO I WOULD, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING INGENIOUS THAT ENGAGES THOSE TWO AND DOESN'T FEEL LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A PUBLIC SIDEWALK, THIS IS A PRIVATE SPACE. UM, UM, DIEGO MENTIONED MAYBE SOMETHING THAT, UH, DELINEATES THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRY, UM, BUT MAYBE I WOULD CHALLENGE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS TO HAVE FUN WITH THAT AND COME UP WITH A WAY THAT REALLY, UM, BLENDS IT OR, OR, UM, HAS THOSE TWO PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACES MEET, UM, IN A MORE EXCITING WAY. UM, SO ANYWAY, GENERALLY I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT ON ITS NEXT ITERATION. SO, UM, UM, ECHOING TED'S PIECE AS WELL. WE OFTEN SEE STUFF WHERE IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, 90% BAKED, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE WORKED ON. SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S IT FOR MY COMMENTS. THANK AND THANK YOU, CAROLYN. THANK YOU. UM, MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE MADE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE, SO I'LL BE SUPER QUICK, UH, AND JUST SAY THAT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORKING WITH EVERSOURCE TO BURY THE TRANSFORMER. I REALLY APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE ARTICULATION ON THE BUILDING THAT LOOKS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUNSHADES THAT TOM WAS CALLING OUT, THE BALCONIES THAT ASHLEY WAS CALLING OUT, THE STEP DOWNS. UM, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU'RE ADDING A LOT OF GOOD THERE, UM, WHETHER IT IS, UM, BECAUSE OF PASSIVE HOUSE OR, UM, OR TO GET MORE RENT OR WHATEVER, BUT IT, IT, IT ADDS ARTICULATION AND INTEREST AND IT, IT HELPS. UM, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT. UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE OF THE SPACE. I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING YOU BEFORE US, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE DETAIL WHEN YOU COME BACK. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU, CAROLYN. WELL, ONE OF THE GREAT ADVANTAGES TO BEING CHAIR, AND THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY, BUT ONE OF THEM IS THAT YOU GET TO GO LAST AND MOST OF THE COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID. SO JUST QUICKLY, UM, I I REALLY APPRECIATE DAN'S OBSERVATION. DAN, YOU'RE BRINGING THIS TO US AND BEING FRANK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE MATERIAL COLOR SET EXACTLY. WE WANNA MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. WE'RE WORKING, UH, IT, IT APPEARS IN A VERY BONAFIDE WAY WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR BUTTER, MR. BENTLEY. SO, UM, IT, IT DOES FEEL GOOD THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION. AT LEAST HAVE A SENSE THAT, UH, WHAT WE MIGHT SAY COULD BE TAKEN UNDER ADVISEMENT IN A BON IN A REAL WAY. UM, SO I LIKE THE BUMP OUTS AND THE PROJECTIONS. SO IT'S, THAT MAKES HORSE RACING. DAN. UH, I AGREE WITH CAROLYN. I THINK IT, UH, IT, IT HELPS THE BUILDING A LOT AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DEVICES IN PLAY. UH, MR. QUINN'S GOT, UH, A REALLY GOOD PALETTE THERE, I THINK, UH, AN EFFORT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LINEAN STREET IS DIFFERENT THAN MASS AVE. AND WE'VE TALKED, TOUCHED ON THAT TONIGHT, DIEGO COMMENTS AT THE OUTSET SAYING, UH, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT ENTRANCE, UH, ON LINEAN STREET, BUT ALSO THE STAFF COMMENTS IN THE MEMO SAYING, IS THERE A WAY IN WHICH WE COULD PUSH THAT A LITTLE FURTHER? I KNOW THE MASSING IS ALSO, UH, DEFERRING TO THE C ONE DISTRICT AND STARTING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LINEAN STREET IS NOT THE PRIMARY AVENUE THE WAY MASS AVE IS. SO, UM, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE. I BELIEVE, UM, I, YES, OTHER RENDERINGS, AND MAYBE THEY'RE PHOTOREALISTIC IN, UH, UH, I, I PROBABLY GET 10 EMAILS A DAY. I'M AN ARCHITECT, UH, SOLICITING, UH, THAT SERVICE. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE TERRIFIC TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THAT, TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT AS, AS TED HAS SUGGESTED, AND ALSO TO FORCE THE DECISIONS ABOUT THE WAY THOSE RAILINGS ARE GONNA WORK AND THE DIVISIONS ON THE, ON THE BALCONIES, ET CETERA. 'CAUSE IT DOES MEAN THAT YOU'VE GOTTA, UH, TAKE THAT ARCHITECTURE TO ANOTHER SCALE, WHICH I THINK YOU'RE READY TO DO AS YOU MOVE THROUGH DD INTO, UH, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. UM, I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THAT THE MATERIALS ARE, AS I UNDERSTAND THEM, ARE BEING DESCRIBED AS BEING PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. THIS IS NOT HARDY PLANK. THIS IS A, A, A MUCH THICKER, MUCH HEAVIER, UH, SORT OF CLADDING, WHICH WILL HAVE JOINTS IN IT. UM, AND I, IT'S GONNA MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. THERE'S LINES ON THE BUILDING, WHICH IS SOME IDEA THAT WE WANNA DIFFERENTIATE THE DIFFERENT PARTS WITH THE WAY THE PIECES COME TOGETHER. UH, BUT THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS THERE TO FIGURE OUT HOW BIG ARE THESE PANELS? ARE THEY HORIZONTAL? ARE THEY VERTICAL? AND, UH, THAT'LL MAKE A, A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE CHARACTER OF THE ARCHITECTURE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, UH, [02:00:01] MORE CONFIDENCE ABOUT, UH, WHAT YOU WANNA DO RELATIVE TO, TO THAT. UM, THE COMMENT, UH, TODAY ABOUT COULD THE ROOF DECK BE CHILDREN? UH, I DON'T THINK WE FOCUS ENOUGH ON THE LIFE OF, UH, ALL OUR CITIZENS IN CAMBRIDGE AND KNOW THAT WAS A LOVELY IDEA THAT THERE COULD BE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY. UH, OBVIOUSLY THE URBAN SITE MAKES THAT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. BUT, UM, UH, THE ROOF, THINKING ABOUT THE ROOF DECK AS, AS A PLACE WHERE THEY MIGHT RUN AROUND SEEMS, UM, SEEMS GREAT WITHIN, WITHIN WITHIN ITS SAFETY STANDARDS. UM, UH, I FOUND THE GARAGE DOOR A BIT OPPRESSIVE AS IT WAS RENDERED IN, UH, IN ITS BLACKNESS. SO, UM, I ABOUT, AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON DRIVING TOWARDS PASSIVE HOUSE CERTIFICATION. IT'S A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT AND, UH, UH, THAT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THIS PLANET. I KNOW THAT'S NOT IN FASHION THESE DAYS, APPARENTLY, UH, I'M STILL GONNA BE A DOCKET ADVOCATE, AS ARE ALL MY OTHER FELLOW BARN BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFUL, UH, PRESENTATION TONIGHT. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? I SEEING NONE, LEMME JUST LOOK AT MY SCRIPT HERE. OKAY. NO FINAL COMMENTS. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT, UM, ONLY WE WILL, UH, HAVE A MOTION. I, JUST TO CONCLUDE THE DISCUSSION. UM, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT, EVAN, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE IT, UH, TO THIS, TO THE, UH, TO THE NEXT HEARING. SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO CONCLUDE TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION AND KICK IT TO THE NEXT HEARING. THIS IS CAROLYN. SO MOVED. THANK YOU. THAT'S A RELIEF . I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I WAS PROPOSING SOMETHING RADICAL THERE. MAYBE I AM. SEE IF I COULD GET A SECOND . THAT'S TED. SECOND. OKAY. , LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL ON THE VOTE ON THE MOTION. AND THAT MOTION. UH, H THEODORE COHEN. YES. DIEGO MACIAS. YES. ASHLEY TAN. YES. CAROLYN ZERN? YES. AND THOM VIC? YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE BOARD TONIGHT? IF NOT, WE WILL ADJOURN. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.